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Love-Hounds Digest			    Thursday, March 13, 1986, 06:23

Today's Topics:

		   What to do after "The Pink Opaque"
 			    Dear Repo Hacker
			  obscenities (2 msgs)
			Who's in PIL these days?
		    Attention all Mike Oldfield fans
     Gabriel. Genesis. Ranting & ravings in one nonstop paragraph.
			  Gods-head Revisited

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Subject: What to do after "The Pink Opaque"
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 86 04:58:40 -0800
From: alfke@csvax.caltech.edu


Several people I know or have heard from are familiar only with the
Cocteau Twins' "The Pink Opaque", so it seems that more productive than
ranting & raving would be for me to describe the albums, etc. that the
various songs are taken from...

"Wax and Wane" from the album "Garlands"
	The re-mixing indicated on the liner notes is just the substitution
	of a better drum machine.  Kind of detracts from the song, in
	my opinion.  "Garlands" is fantastic, one of the eeriest, most
	frightening records I've ever heard.  "Wax and Wane" is typical,
	though one of the best songs.  Screeching guitar, droning bass...
	Not as pretty as their later stuff, but it's one of my all-time
	favorite albums.

"Musette and Drums" from the album "Head Over Heels"
	"Head Over Heels" is my favorite of their albums, but they could
	have chosen a better song from it.  "Tinderbox of a Heart" and
	"My Love Paramour" are amazing, stunning ... as is the album as
	a whole.  If you must buy only one more Cocteau Twins record,
	buy this one.

"Hitherto" and "From the Flagstones" from the E.P. "Sunburst and Snowblind"
	The E.P. also contains "Sugar Hiccup", a beautiful song from
	"Head Over Heels", and "Because of Whirl-Jack".  The latter is
	a good song (so are they all, all good songs), but not worth
	getting the whole thing for unless you're a completist.

"Pearly-Dewdrops' Drops", "Pepper-Tree" and "The Spangle Maker"
from the 12-inch single "Pearly-Dewdrops' Drops"
	Well, there you have the whole single, although the version
	of "Pearly-Dewdrops' Drops" on the single is just a bit different
	at the start for some reason.

"Millimillenary" from an NME compilation tape
	Well, I've never seen the tape, so what can I say?
	(Has anybody seen it? What/who else is on it?)

"Lorelei" from the album "Treasure"
	Two people have told me that this is their favorite song on
	"The Pink Opaque", and it's certainly, along with "Ivo", the
	best song on "Treasure".  The rest of the album is good, but
	not nearly as good as the other two, and there's some definite
	filler on it.  Get "Head Over Heels" first!

"Aikea-Guinea" from the E.P. "Aikea-Guinea"
	I was disappointed by this song when it first came out, but
	I like it more and more (it sounds even nicer in digital :-).
	The other three songs on the E.P. are also good (even though
	one's an instrumental) but not spectacular.

There are also two very good singles/E.P.s from which nothing was taken:

"Lullabies": released quite soon after "Garlands"; probably just after
	they got a better drum-machine :-).  Less scary than "Garlands"
	("Feathers Oar-Blades" could almost be described as sounding
	New-Order-ish) but in somewhat the same vein.  Great stuff.

"Peppermint Pig" b/w "Laugh-lines" and "Hazel"
	Three great songs.  "Hazel" has the fastest 3/4 beat of any
	song I've ever heard ... Chronologically, between "Lullabies"
	and "Head Over Heels".

In addition, there are two new E.P.s, released almost simultaneously,
that I'll get around to reviewing sometime.

The lowdown?  Get "Head Over Heels".  If you like "Wax and Wane", get
"Garlands".  Hell, all their stuff is good, those are just the ones I
like the best . . .

Enough self-indulgence.  Back to our regularly-scheduled programming.

						--Peter Alfke
						  alfke@csvax.caltech.edu
"Poor worthless lover, I'm all lackluster
 I'm no longer multicolored,
 I'm just multifoiled"

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 86 17:46:59 EST
From: cmoore@brl-vmb.arpa
Apparently-To: <love-hounds@mit-eddie.arpa>

Please stop using obscenities

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Date:     Mon, 10 Mar 86 16:18:43 EST
From: Hofmann@AMSAA.ARPA
Subject:  Dear Repo Hacker

From:  Repo Hacker
> 
> Good Things: Butthole Surfers on video !!! real hot stuff.
(and for the low low price of 25$ or so - I might add)



Dear Repo Hacker:

y'know I got these friends, really into the old 60's stuff.
Something new to them is finding a Gregg Allman solo album
they never heard before ... and that's OK - I'm not putting
down their tastes at all - but I have been slowly working them
into different music, y'know startin out slow with say
Husker's latest LP or the Minutemen (careful not to show them
the revolutionary words -:-)) and a coupla a weeks ago, I
said, fuggit - let's go whole hog and give them da woiks - so
I played "To Parter" and "Tornadoes" from the latest Butthole
EP and tell ya the Plain Truth - They were blown AWAY, completely
and magnificiently (so was I but that's like a usual happenin',
y'see) ... then came the moment of truth (i.e. wherein my
initiates start bugging me for the name of this wonderful but
unknown group) ... I hemmed and hawed and mutter it under my
breath trying desperately to change the subject before they
pressed me too hard ... but they caught one of my mumblings
and said, "the what?  the buttholes???" ... The sordid truth
out, I said without fear of retribution ... "yes, the (ahem)
Butthole Surfers" ... at first they laughed and then when they
straightened out they proclaimed (in all 60's-style seriousness),
"But they'd be good if they didn't have such a bad name!"  "How
so?" I reply.  "Well, they'd get a big record contract".  SO,
dear Repo Hacker, should I have kicked them out the front
door or the back door?

			Signed,
			Madness and Mayham in Maryland


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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 86 19:07:55 EST
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: Re:  obscenities

> What's the story here?  How about a word from our moderator here ...
>
> /jordan

Mr. Moore isn't on the mailing list, and I say "F*ck him".  (Or
rather, "F*ck him", as it will appear in mod.music.  Now mod.music
readers are going to be really confused because both of those quotes
will look exactly alike.)  In any case, I don't know what Mr. Moore
is talking about, because Greg Skinner edits out obscenities for
mod.music anyway.  Besides, I don't care what Mr. Moore thinks about
fine Anglo-Saxon words.  This is someone that was interested in Husker
Du because from their name he thought they might be an "oldies" group.

			Sh*t by any other name
			Would still smell as sweet

			Doug

[And now, a word from our moderator.  Please encourage your fellow
love-hounds posters not to post profanity.  If you *must*, please * out
the vowels or something -- people have been complaining about the
profanity.  --gregbo]

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Date:     10 Mar 86 (Mon) 11:19:13 EST
From: Keiji Kanazawa <kgk%brown.csnet@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA>
Subject:  Who's in PIL these days?
Apparently-To: Love-Hounds

I would appreciate if somebody can tell me, or point me to, the usual
album specs for the PiL ``album''; who plays on what song and things
like that. I don't read music rags and all I can tell is that Laswell
co-produced it... Given that Lydon was on the Golden Palominos album,
I figure there's a chance some of the tracks have Fier and Laswell on
them, and I'm dying to find out..

[I don't know about Fier, but I know that Niki Scopalitus (or however
you spell that), who played on the Golden Palominos album also played
on "Album".  -- Doug]

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Date: Mon, 10 Mar 86 23:45:27 EST
From: ihnp4!utzoo!dciem!jeff
Subject: Attention all Mike Oldfield fans

I'm a big fan of Mike Oldfield, but his records are sometimes difficult to
find in North American record stores.  If you want to increase your collection,
but haven't seen much in the stores, I may be able to help.  I have several
Mike Oldfield records I would like to sell and replace with CD's:

7" singles:  Blue Peter / Woodhenge
             Mistake / (Waldberg) The Peak
             Moonlight Shadow / Rite Of Man
             Crime Of Passion / Jungle Gardenia
12" single:  Shadow On The Wall (extended version) / Taurus 3
LP's:        Tubular Bells  (quadrophonic remix)
             Hergest Ridge  (vastly superior quadrophonic remix)
             Ommadawn  (quadrophonic remix)
             QE2
             Five Miles Out
             Discovery

The quadrophonic records can be played on stereo equipment.  All records are
imported from Britain except "Five Miles Out", which is Canadian, and all are
in new condition with the following exceptions:  "Jungle Gardenia" has a bit
of noise near the end, "Discovery" has a bit near the beginning of side 2,
and I haven't listened to "Five Miles Out" but it may be a bit noisy because
my wife played it on her inferior turntable.  These records cost me almost
$100, but I will sell the whole set for $50 in Canadian funds or the equivalent
in US funds (about $36), plus postage, which should be about $5 to Canada or
the US.  If nobody wants to buy the whole set, I will sell them individually,
but the more records you buy, the lower the price per record will be.  If
you're interested, send me mail at the address in my signature below.

If that's not enough for you, I have recently been corresponding with the owner
of the world's largest collection of Mike Oldfield records outside of England.
He is looking for several American and Canadian records that he can't get in
Europe (I have already sent him several Canadian records but he still wants
more), plus some rare European and Japanese releases.  He is willing to buy
them or trade them for something that he has or can get.  He has several records
that are either no longer available in North America or never were, which
he is willing to trade.  He can also get you any Mike Oldfield album on CD
(except "Incantations" and "Exposed", which are not yet available).  Here's his
name and address:

	Hendrik Obbes
	Ravensberger Str. 168
	5600 Wuppertal 1
	West Germany

I'm also always willing to talk about Mike Oldfield's music.
--
Jeff Richardson, DCIEM, Toronto  (416) 635-2073
{linus,ihnp4,uw-beaver,floyd}!utcsri!dciem!jeff
{allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!dciem!jeff



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Date:     Tue, 11 Mar 86  02:04:05 EST
From: CUTTER%UMass.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU  (Local UMass address is
  Cutter@Mailer.CY175)
Subject:  Gabriel. Genesis. Ranting & ravings in one nonstop paragraph.

Does anyone know anything about a new Peter Gabriel album? He's had
nothing since 1983's SECURITY, and I've had to console myself by
buying "peter gabriel" (III) in German, "Security" in German, and a total
of $80 of Gabriel bootlegs, some of which are worth note: "Swelled and
Spent: The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway Live" - no bass, but the audience
shut up during the songs and the spoken intros by Gabriel... "Milton
Keynes 2nd October 1982" - this is a "Fan Club Only" (baha!) release of a
Genesis/Gabriel reunion concert from 1982. Lotsa neat stuff, pretty good
sound quality. Gabriel does drums on "Turn It On Again", and he's pretty
good, too. Also, a nice version of "Solsbury Hill", and some WIERD intros.
"Games... Without Words" - hey hey! someone broke into Gabriel's home in
Bath and stole some tapes. Good quality, with some unreleased instrumentals.
Features Tony Levin, Jerry Marotta, and Larry Fast (Synergy). Strange version
of "I Go Swimming", extended version of "Games Without Frontiers" sans words
(most of the songs have no vocal trax) and an interesting synth percussion
track. And a very bad cover photo.   Interesting to note: The reunion concert
comes in an attractive red gatefold with nice color photos from the concert
on the inside and out... It has a copyright notice, and is attributed to
"Jessicharisma Records". Uh-huh. Sure. Just like the "Return to Abbey Road"
bootleg that says it's an E.M.I. recording. Looks like one too, with a
back cover photo of the Abbey Road studios, and a front-cover consisting
of an alternate take for the Abbey Road cover - replete with Paul wearing
sandals and all 4 dudes walking the *other* *direction* across Abbey Road!
By the way, I advise you to pick up the AR Japanese CD. It's great!! Them
short little Asian critters ran that sucker through some heavy duty
computers to get it sounding nice, which it does. Also, I hear tell of a
new Genesis album coming out soon. After "Genesis", I have almost given
up on Phil and the boys. Better to listen to "Mike and the Mechanics", it's
much more interesting than whatever Phil-baby can do. Maybe it'll have a
small gem like "Illegal Alien", whose only redeeming value was that it was
the only non-love song on "Genesis". "Home By the Sea" was just plain
embarassing. Ah, for the days of "The Cinema Show", or "Supper's Ready"...
Back to the Gabriel album for a sec, and then I'll go away; considering
his rehashing of PGIII music for "Birdy", and the sound and feel of
"Walk Through the Fire" (for the "Against All Odds" soundtrack, I think),
plus his comment that "I like the sound of the second two albums better than
the first two", I think whatever PGVI turns out to be, it'll probably be
more pseudo-African-syntho-pop stuff, which is nice, but I'd like to see
him do another "Mother of Violence", or "D.I.Y.", or even another "Modern
Love"...
                    "Can't you feel our souls ignite?
                     Shedding ever-changing colours
                     In the darkness of the fading night.
                     Like the river joins the ocean,
                     As the germ in a seed grows,
                     We have finally been freed to get back home..."

                                                     Joe
"What Doug feels for Kate, I feel for
 Petey G... 'cept I don't want to sleep
 with Gabriel..." :-)

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Date: Sat, 8 Mar 86 10:01:30 pst
From: allegra!sdcrdcf!smeagol!earle (Greg Earle)
Subject: Gods-head Revisited

[ This got bounced by csvax's stupid internet domain server, which suddenly
decided it didn't know about eddie.mit.edu's existence anymore.
Therefore, we try the snail route ... ]

New Siouxsie 12" is out.  Luckily, in the fine tradition of Totally
Awesome Siouxsie B-Sides, they didn't let us down ... Check out
"Umbrella" and be totally amazed.  These people are even older than me!!
Sheeit, they're almost THIRTY years old, and still come up with the goods.
Amazing.

Oh, yeah - in case I lost anybody with my 'Reasons To No Longer Avoid
Double Albums Like The Plague':

Hula are the spiritual successors to the pre-commercial Cabaret Voltaire -
from Sheffield; use found voices, sounds, etc.; funk based (loosely) but
with a final brew that is not really 'funky', etc. [we're talkin' Before
"Crackdown"/Virgin/Some Bizarre Cab Vol here, folks].  If you bid a sad
farewell to Cab Vol after "Micro-Phonies", do not despair... All is not lost.

Severed Heads are from Australia, and they sound like ..... Severed Heads.
That should leave ya guessing ...

	"... Now An Explosive New Movie ..."
	Greg



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-- 
It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under.

Greg Skinner (gregbo)
{decvax!genrad, allegra, gatech, ihnp4}!mit-eddie!gds
gds@eddie.mit.edu