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Love-Hounds Digest			Friday, June 13, 1986, 02:39 EDT

Topics:

				 Words
			    Re:  Puppeteers
			       EMI, RLYL
			      Set on KALX
				Siouxsie
			Without the sleaze Bill?

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Just a few quick responses here:

Doug mentioned that "So" wasn't recorded at Peter Gabriel's home studio.
Although various studios are mentioned, one of them, "Real World Studios"
is (I think) the name of his home studio, and that's where the bulk
of the recording took place. I think this is correct, 'cos on the
"Birdy" soundtrack, it says "A Real World Production", and also that
it was recorded at "Real World Studios". However, since most of the
stuff is instrumentals from "Security" (which was recorded at home),
use your rules of formal logic to deduct where "So" was recorded....
(I could be wrong, though. I've never been good at logic)

Speaking of somewhat trivial technicalities, does anyone else know
more about the legal aspect of liscencing technicalities in regards
to EMI's use of Kate's master tapes (made by her company, Norvercia)?
I'm interested in music and the law, and was wondering if anyone
knows of other similar arrangements (I think Paul McCartney, Duran
Duran, Queen, and Michael Jackson all own their master tapes, and
liscence them to the record company. Oh, and David Bowie. It seems
like this is a particular trend with EMI. Any ideas?)

As far as the "Under the Ivy" fanzine goes, I'm personally staying
away from it, since it sounds pretty shady. Apparently, it is run
by Andrew Whiteside, who has been a Kate fan for a long time, but
who is also practicing to be a rock critic along side with Richard Cook!
Several years ago, he sent an article in to Homeground, completely
slagging off "Never for Ever" and most of Kate's other albums in
the same sort of Richard Cook style. When Peter Morris questioned
why he was sending such an overly negative review in to Homeground
(and asked him to tone it down somewhat), Andrew ran off like a
bratty kid and started up his own fanzine. I have never read an
entire article, but someone read me his "review" of "Hounds of Love"
in which he ran down all the songs, saying, for instance, that
"Running up that Hill" is such a boring song, that everyone he
knows wants to skip the needle over it and go on to the second song!

Actually, I find it to be one of her most enduring songs, that
gets better with each listen. (Unlike the second song!).

One really weird thing, though, is that it literally sounds to
be running at a different pace every single time I listen to it!

At first I thought that the 12" and the cassette, and the CD were
mastered at different speeds, but someone at the convention assured
me that he counted the beats, and they are all the same.
However, when I put it on this morning, it seemed to be running
DOWN that hill, it was going so fast! (And it can't be the turntable
'cos I have a portable CD player). Is this an aural illusion?
Has anyone else experienced the same thing?


Hugh


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Date: 860610 14:19 MESZ
From: <FP98%DMARUM8.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU>
Subject: Words

Hi,

perhaps somebody of you has the words (lyrics) of the

songs  of HoL in his reader, so would he (she?) be so

kind to send them to me (PUNCHED CLASS M)?

Thanks

Ulrich

<FP98@DMARUM8.BITNET>


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Date: Tue, 3 Jun 86 10:35:38 edt
From: Henry Chai <ihnp4!utflis!chai>
Subject: Re:  Puppeteers

>Really-From: Joe Turner <cutter%umass-boston.csnet@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA>
>As a summary: Puppeteers are a two-headed, three-legged alien race whose
>noteable features are brilliant spacecraft design and unbridled cowardice.

At the risk of being flamed for posting a spoiler without warning,  :-)
a Puppeteer can use its powerful third foot to deliver a lethal kick.

--henry

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From: allynh@calder.berkeley.edu (Allyn Hardyck)
Subject: EMI, RLYL
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 86 01:01:41 PDT

The friend who works at EMI lent me a promo video featuring about 10
EMI artists.  Let's see, there was:

	Brian Setzer - "The Knife Feels Like Justice" - basically like
		what the guys in SPIN said it was like.
	I forget who, but the guys who do "Let's Go All The Way" - eh, 
	[Sly Fox, NYC band, r&b influence  --gregbo]
		ok I guess.
	Talk Talk - "Life's What You Make It" - real cool.  Boy, these
		guys sure have got away from their original "cool white
		suits, slicked back hair, thin tie high tech" image.
		They had another video too from the album, forget what.
	Greg Kihn - feh.
	Red Hot Chili Peppers - forget what, but manic as usual. 
		From the new album; apparently the unedited version,
		socks and all.
	Pet Shop Boys - "West End Girls" - what's not to like I guess...
	John Lennon - 1972, doing "Come Together" live.
	and ... "Cloudbusting".  Yes, very nice, touching, heartwarming etc.

He also lent me a shorter videotape, of Sigue Sigue Sputnik's
"Love Missile F1-11".  Ugh.  I feel sorry for EMI, having shelled out
something like $2 mil for these guys, I've heard.  They're fixing to
be the new Frankie.  Machine guns, _Clockwork Orange_, "designer violence,"
and _Scarface_.  My poor friend had to show a 28-minute SSS documentary
at this show at the Omni in Oakland recently: no music, understand, just
interviews and The Making of SSS (from the ground up, pick the most
photogenic people THEN teach them to play). Well I guess the bar did
better business.

Descendents / Catheads / Buck Naked / Rain Parade / Square Roots / Steve Wynn /
	Mr. T Experience @ Omni, Oakland, May 17

Got in free thanx to Bill the EMI guy, first place I had to go to where there
was a line of even semi-luminaries trying to get in:

	"Hi, I'm with KFJC, I'm on there I thiinnnk....  Yah, right there."
	"KALX..."
	"Maximum R & R..."

Mr T. Experience were unadulterated teen garage punk and as such not very
interesting, time for a beer...  The Omni touts itself as the newest music
"complex" in the Bay Area, which means 2 large bars, stage, balcony, a weird 
little carpeted area to wander around in drunk, and what must be a vintage 1976
disco floor, well scuffed plexiglas covering multicolored Xmas bulbs (more on
the walls) and a video screen.  Well, Steve Wynn was on stage (and screen)
at that time with an acoustic guitar doing Dream Syndicate and some Dylan
while occasionally berating the audience, and needless to say the 10 or so
of us in there just sat on the edge of the floor drinking.

          S
Then the S S video.  This British guy Carl I know was there, quite rightly
termed them "wankers".  (I hate it when Americans use the term.)

Square Roots are a duo, acoustic guitar and standup bass, well known around
the UC as they play on Sproul Plaza a lot.  Comparisons to the Femmes of
course, but they are a little more upbeat and squeaky clean, smile a lot
more.

Rain Parade played a set w/out drum kit (just tambourine), do better at the
Summer of Love sound than most, can't really be more explicit...  I had to
drive someone back to Barr. in a truck and come back.

Buck Naked - new Cramps?  They're apparently from Nebraska, lead guy shed
his coat early on, had black bikini bottom (well and 10-gallon hat and
lots of things hanging round neck), mouth-droppingly risque lyrics, high-speed.
In other words, good fun.  Great for your next party or get-together.

Catheads - basically the same as when I previously reviewed, but I think
I liked them a bit more than before.  Did high-speed "Hurdy-Gurdy Man"
again...

Descendents - wow it actually took a couple of songs for the pit to open
and it didn't last for long - Bay Area audiences are confused.  Did all the
hits - "I'm Not A Loser" etc.  Milo in tennis shorts, looks like one of those
"ordinary f*ckin' people."

Red Lorry Yellow Lorry @ I-Beam, SF, April 21

Missed opening act...  Danny who came with sed "This must have been what
a Joy Division show was like."  Big pudge guy on lead guitar which from
where I was standing was inaudible, drummer helped by machine, bassist
kinda looks like the guy in F/X, lead singer spits the lyrics out so
caustically looked like his lip was bleeding.   "Talk About the Weather",
"Elevation".   I wouldn't say just like JD, and there's a case to be
made for the elements of bone-picking in their music, but the intensity
in their pissed-off attitude was undeniable.

Little worrisome - the stuff they were playing before they came on included,
between some psychedelicy tunes, BOCs "Fear The Reaper."  And it worked, is
the troubling thing.  This and DMCs covering "Walk This Way."  And of course
Redd Kross.  Good thing there was a thing in the paper Sunday on the milestones
of the 70s - good reference if you start to wonder if you've stumbled into
that forbidden zone...

	"Play that funky music white boy" - allyn

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 86 02:39:27 PDT
From: allynh@calder.berkeley.edu (Allyn Hardyck)
Subject: Set on KALX

You guys woulda loved the set they just played here...  Hawkwind, Jane Siberry,
Spirit, Big Black, Moby Grape...

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From: allynh@calder.berkeley.edu (Allyn Hardyck)
Subject: Siouxsie
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 86 03:09:37 PDT

Siouxsie and the Banshees / Love and Rockets @
Henry J. Kaiser Convention Center, Oakland, June 1

We were the only people in the audience without mousse, dye or black clothes.
Jeezus.  First Stooges album on PA, again the "were these people even alive
then?" phenom.  Love and Rockets very disappointing, I'm sorry to say to
those of you who I know like them.  No Bauhaus or Tones on Tail songs, and
their new stuff just doesn't cut it.  Oh yeah, Daniel Ash looks real cool
in purple velvet robe with fur collar, and he got off some pretty neat
distortion effects, but in all not what their history shows they could be.

Siouxsie's the total center of attention, Severin and Carruthers off the
spotlight in their paisley tunics.  Started off with "Cities in Dust",
she wearing a red top with hearts on it, lot of stringy things adorning
imperiously.  Black leather hip boots.  Most of the stuff was from "Kiss 
in the Dreamhouse", "Hyaena" and I guess "Tinderbox" (I haven't got it yet).
"Christine", "Happy House", "Melt!", "Bring Me The Head of the Preacher Man,"
"Night Shift".  "Israel" and "Spellbound" as encores.  No "Hello San Francisco"
or the like, the occasional fluttering "AWK AWK AWK!" from Siouxsie was all.
Great dance moves.  Neat ultraviolet lighting fx and back lighting over by
Budgie.  One of our number luded out and had to be taken off the floor for
a rest.

"The head doctor is a Very Distinguished Arabian Jack-Off Specialist Who
Has Been in the Sun Too Long.  No Humor."

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From: allynh@calder.berkeley.edu (Allyn Hardyck)
Subject: Without the sleaze Bill?
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 86 03:31:28 PDT

Did you really mean Chris and Cosey were less sleazy than TG, or were you
doing a double entendre on Peter Christopherson's nickname Sleazy?  If the
former, well...

Chris and Cosey / Club Foot Orchestra @ Wolfgang's, SF, May 8
(another old review, sorry)

Another show went to with Danny.  I was recently shown an old copy of the
NME Singles review section mentioning Danny's band, Stukas Over Bedrock...
Well golly?  Well we both got pretty smashed, me buying the drinks cuz
he forgot his fake ID, cuz Club Foot was pretty dull.  I don't care if
Snakefinger's in them or that they backed up the Femmes, by themselves
they're just too loungy.

C & C passed through the crowd before the show, Chris first.  And on stage,
it was Chris on the left with the keyboard bank, Cosey on a chair to his right,
with her guitar case full of effects boxes, and her cornet.  Very "Crackdown"
era CV it seemed to me.  And the videos - reminded me of Film 2 last fall,
bits from "Un Chien Andalou" and Rene Clair's "Entr'acte".  North Indian 
dancing, and let me tell you it's one thing to have Prince undulating on
stage on a brass bed, it's quite another to watch footage of Cosey performing
fellatio on these massively endowed males.  Also tantra cult ritual aerobics.
Smiled at the close of the show, said "Bye now" like you were leaving their
Bed and Breakfast inn.  CTI CTI CTI CTI CTI CTI CTI CTI CTI CTI CTI CTI CTI CTI

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-- 
It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under.

Greg Skinner (gregbo)
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