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Love-Hounds Digest			Issue L4

Topics:

 * HoL on CD & HoL vs The Dreaming
 * Classical comparisons / Cute Quotes
 * rambling and review
 * A Complexing Listing. . .
 * Robert Fripp, Toyah, Crafty Guitarists

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Date:     25-JUN-1986 14:38:10
From: SSUD3%UK.AC.SUSSEX.VAX2@AC.UK


A few brief notes:

Although I havn't had a chance to thoroughly compare them, the first
difference I have noticed between the second Japanese pressing of the
CD of "Hounds of Love" and the original British-released pressing is
in the beginning of "Running up that Hill."  One things I've always
noticed (and sort of been bugged by) is how the fairlight droning
intro (when I listen on headphones, or turn it up loudly) has a
"break" in it - so instead of steadily fading in from nothing, it sort
of fades in a bit, and then suddenly increases in volume, which was
probably due to some sort of CD mastering error.  (Perhaps the
engineer sneezed while holding onto the fader....)

However, on the Japanese second pressing, they must have corrected it,
'cos it fades in evenly and slowly.  (OK, flame at me for promoting KT
trivia...

Secondly, the new Big Country album (oh no...) just got a rave review
by Melody Maker, which specifically pointed out "Kate Bush's ATHLETIC
warbling" and it's celtic/folk influences and overall progression from
the earlier albums.  Nyah Nyah Nyah....

Adding fuel to the "HoL" vs. "The Dreaming" fire.....
I don't have time to go into detail, but one difference between the
two albums (which helps me determine which one is "better") is that
while listening to "TD", I can never concentrate on anything but the
music, and end up somewhat mesmerized by it. However, on "Hounds"
there are times that my attention can wander.
Of course, there's more to it than this, but my friend is pestering
me to hurry up, so more later.

Hugh


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Date: 25 Jun 86 10:35:00 PST
From: "ROSSI J.A." <rossi@nusc.ARPA>
Subject: Classical comparisons / Cute Quotes
Reply-To: "ROSSI J.A." <rossi@nusc.ARPA>


Just teasing, Doug.  Besides, I forgot about the 'Rite of Spring'.  I
have strong feelings concerning the comparisons of modern 'POP' music
with anything classical (pre 1850) or what I consider neo-classical.
This status we give to 'old' music, is given because it is 'old' and
has stood the test of time, not because of what it sounds like.  There
were undoubtedly hundreds of composers, song-writers, etc who lived in
the 17, 18 and 19 centuries who are unhgeard of today.  They are,
then, not classical composers.

Sorry, I got to go and attend some sonar stuf, I'll continue later.

John

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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 86 11:59:49 EST
From: hsut@ec.purdue.edu (Bill Hsu)
Subject: rambling and review

< Shelli raves about Smithereens >

Uhhh... I've seen the Blood and Roses video several times and can't
really say it's memorable (musically or visually). A decent bit of
jangly, catchy pop, but nothing terribly exciting (the review of their
earlier stuff in New Trouser Press Record Guide comes to mind here...)

And now, the surprise unasked-for half-assed notes on:

LAURIE ANDERSON AT THE HOLIDAY STAR, MERRILLVILLE INDIANA (where?)

Well after some misadventures (all of which were my fault, sigh) the
Terrible Trio (Kitty, Andy and me) finally made it to Mville. A rather
low trendies to non-trendies ratio, and I overheard some people saying
they thought Laurie Anderson was fusion :-) :-). LA had two male
backup singers and a keyboards player. For detailed notes on her
equipment, setup, etc., refer to expert opinion on net.music,
net.music.synth, net.music.classical (well maybe not) or just Tom
Janzen.

Since there've been tons of Laurie Anderson reviews in the past
three months, I'll just mention some neat details. LA came on stage
thru the audience, and for quite a few songs sat on the edge of the
stage. I had always thought from listening to the albums that she
was kind of a distant, playful performer who doesn't get close to
the audience. Some of the old stuff she did (I don't have the new
album):

Big Science	(the simple slide show really enhanced this one; lovely)
Sweaters	(hilarious mangled version with tape loop of lascivious
			panting)
Walking & Falling
Oh Superman
Let x=x/it tango
Kokoku		(with the famous airplane and snowflake slides)
Gravity's Angel	(the highlight of the evening; the almost-industrial sounds
		 and powerful delivery evoked superbly the flavor of
		 some scenes from the Pynchon book)

She did two encores: Walk the Dog and Language is a Virus. 

While I still don't think much of the new material, her performance of
the old stuff is really worth seeing. Don't miss her when she comes
into your area.

					Bill Hsu

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Date:     Wed, 25 Jun 86 16:05:54 EDT
From: James B Hofmann <hofmann@AMSAA.ARPA>
Subject:  A Complexing Listing. . .


FYI - Show Dates for the Summer at the Complex, 1239 9th St.
					Washington, DC

Jun 27 - ANGRY SAMOANS / CORROSION OF CONFORMITY / DEAD MILKMEN

Jul 9 - PEACH OF IMMORTALITY / FOUNDATION MFD
   10 - MDC
   13 - STRAW DOGS (formerly F.U.s)
   18 - DESCENDANTS / DAG NASTY
   25 - SONIC YOUTH

Aug 1 - DEATH OF SAMANTHA
    7 - 7 SECONDS / TOXIC REASONS


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From: harvard!ima!inmet!ada-uts!wayne
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 86 20:34:21 edt

This is my first love-hounds note, so I'd thought instead of
contributing to various debates (be they useful or not), I'd offer
some news on Robert Fripp.

Here is the scoop:  sometime this month Editions EG will be releasing
two albums of his.  One is "Robert Fripp and Toyah Wilcox:  The
Lady or the Tiger?"  This album has on one side Toyah telling
children's stories at least some of which are written by Frank Stockton.
The other side has music from the League of Crafty Guitarists.

The other album is "Robert Fripp and the League of Crafty Guitarists:
Live".  This album has on it one piece of Frippertronics (the
background is the same basic loop as "God Save the Queen"), and the
rest is music recorded live from the Crafty Guitarists from concerts
performed at George Washington University last December.

Who is "the League", you may ask (and so you may).  The League is a
collection of guitar students that Robert has been teaching in the US.
He has been holding seminars during the past year and a half
at Claymont Court, a Gurdjieff/Bennet community in West Virginia.

The music of "the Crafties" is uncatagorized (so don't ask me what
kind it is -- I hate these questions, almost as much as I hate
labels).  There are a lot of twentieth century classical
music influences (the most obvious being Bartok) and some pop
influences (a little...) and some improvisation as well.
Robert wrote most of the music, but there are I think two
student compositions on it as well. It is all performed on
Ovation guitars-- twenty of them in fact. Yes, twenty guitar
students and Robert were performing at these concerts. It is all
very listenable, and I liked what I heard from tapes of the concerts
as well as a tape of a test pressing.
(I would say the music is of the same vein as the album "I Advanced
Masked"... or rather, it is closer to that than to any of King
Crimson's works.)

There are rumors that Robert and the advanced students of the
League will be touring in the winter; I don't know yet.  When I
find out I'll post it (if I can).  How do I know all this?
Well, I am a Crafty Guitarist;  I'll be there next winter.

By the way, he and Toyah were introduced last fall at some prearranged
gathering at Editions EG.  Robert was to be her producer.  I didn't
get to meet her (she's also a Crafty Guitarist), but what I heard
was that they hit it off very well... so well that he proposed a short
time later, on Christmas Day.  And now they've tied the knot...

If anyone is interested in attending these classes, I can be a little
less vague (the opaqueness was intentional) and tell you more
about them.  I didn't want to bore anyone with my first note...

Wayne Wylupski                   ...!{ihnp4,ima}!inmet!ada-uts!wayne


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