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Love-Hounds Digest			Saturday, May 24, 1986, 11:44 EDT

Topics:

			      The Big Sky
			   PG and KB (2 msgs)
		  WFNX is trying to drive me crazy!!!
	   Re: PG and KB [really about cowboys and cowgirls]
			       Boys, Boys
			     Educating Fuey
			     Power Rotation

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Date: Sat, 17 May 86 16:25:40 EDT
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: The Big Sky

The video for "The Big Sky" has been spotted on Empty-V!  So it's
just a matter of time til Kate is as big here as Prince, right?
No?

			-Doug

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Date: Sat, 17 May 86 17:02:44 EDT
From: bu-cs!sam (Shelli Meyers)
Subject: PG and KB

What is that duet?  "Don't Give Up"?  Anyway, my friend said she
saw the VIDEO for it on V66 the other night and said it had something
like "I'll be your cowboy and you be my cowgirl" in it.  Is this the
right song?  I haven't heard it yet.  She also said she saw the video
for "Indoor" by Clannad.

- Shelli

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Date: Sat, 17 May 86 20:23:25 EDT
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: Re:  PG and KB

> [From Shelli:]

> What is that duet?  "Don't Give Up"?  Anyway, my friend said she saw
> the VIDEO for it on V66 the other night and said it had something
> like "I'll be your cowboy and you be my cowgirl" in it.  Is this the
> right song?  I haven't heard it yet.  She also said she saw the
> video for "Indoor" by Clannad.

The duet is called "Don't Give Up".  I haven't heard it yet.  WFNX has
the record and last night I called up N times to request it.  They
played "Sledgehammer".  They played "Wuthering Heights".  They played
"Games Without Frontiers"!  But they wouldn't play "Don't Give Up"!
Finally, one of the DJs told me she *really* wanted to play it, but
couldn't because it's a new record and it's in a certain pile and she
didn't have anymore slots in her playlist for that pile....

In any case, I dunno about this cowboy, cowgirl thing...  There's a
song that used to be the number one song on WFNX called "I Wanna Be
Your Cowboy" and the lyrics went something like "I wanna be your
cowboy.  And you can be my cowgirl.  I wanna be your cowboy....".
But it had nothing to do with PG or KB.

			Don't give up,

			Doug

[There's a song called "I Wanna Be a Cowboy" by Boys Don't Cry that has
 this lyric -- it's at #28 with a bullet on Billboard's Hot 100.  --gregbo]

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Date: Sun, 18 May 86 04:03:06 EDT
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: WFNX is trying to drive me crazy!!!

I requested "Don't Give Up" (the PG/KB duet) and instead they played
"No Self Control" (a PG song with KB doing bvox, the DJ said on the
air "Okay Cambridge, you wanted Peter Gabriel so here's some Kate /
Peter Gabriel").  So far I've requested this song four times.  I've
gotten "Sledgehammer", "Wuthering Heights", "Games Without Frontiers",
and "No Self Control", but no "Don't Give Up"!!!  Is there something
hideously wrong with this song?  Does it have leprosy?  Is it
blacklisted?  I don't get it....

			I won't give up...

			Doug

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Subject: Re: PG and KB [really about cowboys and cowgirls]
Date: Sun, 18 May 86 08:27:12 -0500
From: henry@ATHENA.MIT.EDU



>In any case, I dunno about this cowboy, cowgirl thing...  There's a
>song that used to be the number one song on WFNX called "I Wanna Be
>Your Cowboy" and the lyrics went something like "I wanna be your
>cowboy.  And you can be my cowgirl.  I wanna be your cowboy....".

	It's by a group called *boys don't cry*.  unfortunately the
song in question seems to exist only on a 12-inc disco single.  has
anybody seen an album by these folks?

-- henry mensch
-- henry@athena.mit.edu
-- ...!mit-eddie!mit-athena!henry

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Date: Fri, 16 May 86 18:57:46 edt
From: Bob Krajewski <lmi-angel!rpk>
Subject: Boys, Boys

Umm, in my ``Anti-Flame,'' I was enumerated poses that I thought were
composed of at least 70% bogosity, though some of them have a grain of truth
in them.  It's directed mostly at the pat-on-the-back sceneness that the
zine-droolers engage in.  Lots of good (hey, great) American bands have been
slaving away when the ``groovy train'' was nowhere to be found, and now that
there's a reasonable grapevine and distribution network for independents
(well most of them, anyway), Sturgeon's Law is more apparent than ever.  My
greeatest distress originates from that fact that there's this mythical
American sound out there that marks you as being honest.  Well, excuse me,
but I just listen to the stuff.  Hey, how ``American'' did Pylon sound ?
Why do smug DJ's (and I'm not even talking about the usual spoon-fed
cawlitch radio types here) say things like, ``Remember when we used to play
reggae ?''

When REM were making their first rounds, it was OK for them to acknowledge
New Order as an influence (not that any REM influence-elements would be easy
to spot).  Nowadays, I can't even convince a local hipster that this guy I
met who plays in a tight funk band also likes Alex Chilton.  Gosh, how could
anybody be like that ?  I do not include the hard/post-core community and
all the other original misfits in this bunch.  It's not even the few good
bands caught in the whole stampede (though, sadly, the stampede is mostly
towards the good ol' days).  The music comes first, dammit.

Let's talk a little about synths.  First of all, I think there are a lot of
synths that are cheaper than `good' guitars now.  I also want to muse on
sampling for a while.  Of course ``post-modern'' types (hey, I can get in
the mood for it !) like quote-power, the deconstructionist capabilities.  I
don't believe that this mode of music/art-construction is neccessarily
wonderful, but in good hands, it can add undeniable sensual power
while making its references.  (As you can infer, I do like sounds, and
lyrics are usually only of secondary importance.)  There are very few
machines that give as much control over really organic, dirty, and laden-
with-meaning sounds as Fairlights and their ilk.  The best context for these
things seems to be ``real'' instruments, mostly acoustic.  You should all be
familiar with two examples: The Dreaming and the Hounds of Love.  (I'd also
like to throw in The Flat Earth by Thomas Dolby.)

Rather Random Ripostes:

Somebody mentioned Birdsongs of the Mesozoic as a band that used synths.
Well, they do have a little Moog, a funky Roland drum box, and a Linn (the
one new piece of equipment in two years), but everything is low-tech, like
worn, comfortable electric tennis-shoes.  I'm afraid the Cab's current
approach is running out of steam: I find that two chunks (Crackdown and the
Arm, the Sword...) are enough for me.  Try something like Hula or Guerilla
Warfare (hope I got the name right) from Canada instead.  Hey, is your local
college radio outlet going to play a record by a group that does Wild Cherry
and Ohio Players covers ?  (Well, if RUN-DMC can do Aerosmith...)

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Posted-Date: 15 May 86 13:00:59 PDT (Thu)
Subject: Educating Fuey
Date: 15 May 86 13:00:59 PDT (Thu)
From: tsung@aerospace.ARPA


KXLU played one side of this group "Partly Cloudy"'s (apparantly first)
album, labelled "Left Hemisphere".  The other side is, you guessed it,
"Right Hemisphere".  My first impression was: "Hey, Laurie Anderson Jr.!";
only there is less emphasis on lyrics and more on music/sound
effects/noise.  Now I think their music resembles more Tones on Tail
(the 3EP-in-1 I have).  For fans of both I think "Partly Cloudy" is
worth checking out.  Anybody know more about them?

***

Would somebody describe a little the music of Throbbing Gristle/Chris &
Cosy/whats-the-other-one to me?  (Alfke?)

What's a good first introduction to Butthole Surfers (besides the latest one)
and Camper Van Beethoven (what's the folksy song that goes "...take one step
from here ... second step ... third step ..." etc)?

Anybody else think the song "Hawk" from the movie "Trouble in Mind"
(sung by Marianne Faithful) is TOTALLY AWESOME?  Is there any chance
I can get it without buying the whole soundtrack (which I think contains
only one other MF song and otherwise unremarkable instrumental music)?

			Tune in next time for more annoying questions,
			Fu-Sheng

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Date: Sun, 18 May 86 21:11:48 EDT
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: Power Rotation

Empty-V has added PG's "Sledgehammer" into it's "Power Rotation".
I guess it's only a matter of time now until  he's as big as Phil....

			"This is the new stuff
			 I come dancing in"

			 Doug

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-- 
It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under.

Greg Skinner (gregbo)
{decvax!genrad, allegra, gatech, ihnp4}!mit-eddie!gds
gds@eddie.mit.edu