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Love-Hounds Digest			Tuesday, May 27, 1986, 22:31 EDT

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		What? Someone's heard of the PHEROMONES?
		      cassette packaging (3 msgs)
       Sue roasting on an open fire...flames tickling her nose...
				  DBX
				 foetus
			      i'm here...

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Date:         Wed, 21 May 1986 09:24 EDT
From: David M. Hardy <HAADAV@MITVMA>
Subject:      What? Someone's heard of the PHEROMONES?

We've had 'Yuppie Drone' at WMBR for a few months now.  The Pheromones also
have an album of the same name, which I managed to get ahold of at Newbury
Comics.  It's got some great comedy/novelty stuff on it, including "Money
Go Round", and for all you who scorn the current President, "The Great Rondini"

Now, for all you MTV haters out there, check out Tommy Koenig's album The Real
Story.  It's new to me but came out in 1984 I believe.  It's a comedy album,
and includes a cut called something like "The Empty Video Music Channel With
Nina Blackfeet".

Any station that shows "The Big Sky" (I SAW part of it the other day :-) :-) )
can't be all bad.  The remix of the music sounded interesting too.

                                            "Servicing McDonaldland's Economy"
                                             >>> Dave

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Date:     Wed, 21 May 86 9:42:10 EDT
From: another sac's man <hofmann@AMSAA.ARPA>
Subject:  cassette packaging

Doug, I'd be interested in hearing your ideas on how to improve
cassette packaging.

---
Whurps, you ran rungs aroung my lawgeckly.
O interbibe the Preakness 

Jim Rosen.

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Date: Wed, 21 May 86 13:12:54 EDT
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: Re:  cassette packaging

Cassettes should come in shoe boxes packed with plastic eels and lots
of interesting newspaper clippings.  Each one should also come with
an original Dali painting.

			-Doug

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Date:     Wed, 21 May 86 16:38:10 EDT
From: another man's swingset <hofmann@AMSAA.ARPA>
Subject:  Re:  cassette packaging

no really (actually that wasn't that bad of an idea of *mailer*)
but what is better for cassette packaging than a norelco box ...
i mean their thickness doesn't lend itself for being stuck in
an album cover like cds do.  i mean what is better than norelco
boxes?

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Date:     Wed, 21 May 86 15:46:31 EDT
From: Susanne E Trowbridge <umcp-cs!jhunix!ins_aset@seismo.CSS.GOV>
Subject:  Sue roasting on an open fire...flames tickling her nose...



>Date:     Thu, 15 May 86 12:17:38 EDT
>From: Hofmann@AMSAA.ARPA
>Subject:  Dayglo Abortions

>You mean they send you albums and you don't EVEN PLAY THEM?????

>BEcause of the cover?????  Whatdafug??? Give it to me - I'll get it
>mentioned somewheres. . .actually I hear LOTS of good things about
>that band,,, this really makes me puke when I hear of people getting
>free records and not even playing it.  That's bad, Sue ... I should
>forward that to all the record companies and especially the Dayglo
>Abortions.  You should be ashamed, not proud.

Cripes, hof, have you been in a bad mood lately or what?  If you
will recall, I said, "No way was *I* going to put that sucker on
the turntable."  I didn't mean I was going to throw it away,
ferGod'ssake.  We do not THROW records AWAY at WJHU unless they
are really useless MAJOR LABEL 12" singles, like the latest
Julian Lennon, that we would never play and nobody wants.  

I checked the record in, put it in the New Record section of the
library, and let the program director check it out (he's much
more into hardcore than I am.)  I'm sorry that I'm so SQUEAMISH
that I was offended by the cover.  Seems that some of these bands
just want to see how much they can get away with.  I for one am
not amused by gross images of the Pope, the President, foetuses,
Jesus, etc.  I am an agnostic, but that has nothing to do with
it.  I just don't see why these people feel the need to be so
disgusting and offensive.  Just to be shocking, I suppose.

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There now, may I take off my asbestos suit?  What is it about me
lately (snif)?  I innocently recommend an Anna Domino record, and
I get flamed for that too (by someone who seems to have me and
Hof confused, no less!).  Some people are so closed-minded.  Some
people seem to think, "Well, I love (music type A), so anybody
who doesn't listen to (music type A) and prefers (music type B)
must be a WANKER."  It isn't so.  Some of my best friends are
Madonna fans...

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The Roxy Music CD that gtaylor referred to earlier must have been
the double-LP/CD set, "Street Life," which contains songs by Roxy
and Bryan Ferry's solo material.

Taking the heat,
-Sue

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Date: 21 May 86 22:07:00 PST
From: "ROSSI J.A." <rossi@nusc.ARPA>
Subject: DBX
Reply-To: "ROSSI J.A." <rossi@nusc.ARPA>

The nature of the emphasis and pre-emphasis circuits in Pro-DBX are the only
conceviable place that frequency response alterations would be affected by
the system.  Enven then, the alterations would come at the high midrange
where the circuits have their effect.  If the encoder and decoders are matched
no frequency distortion should (I realize nothing is perfect) occur.  Unlike
Dolby, DBX utilizes the principle of linear compression/expansion.  It's only
effect is to improve dynammic range, reduce rumble floors and increase noise
ceilings.  In theory, there should be no frequency response limitations using
the DBX system.  Who are these audiophiles who are complaining?  More than
likely the same lot who don't believe you can build an accurate solic state
amp.
My solution to the virgin vinyl crisis is to record first playings to Pro-DBX
reel tape.  I have heard no changes in frequency characteristics between the
'live' play and the 'Memorex' version through the same equipment.
If anybody out there experiences frequency disturbances using DBX, they should
chheck the calibration in the emphasis/deemphasis circuits.
I'm glad, Kate acknowledges that digital reproduction sounds different (albeit
better in the caser of the Dreaming) than the actual performances.

'Living in Analog'

John
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Date:     Wed, 21 May 86 22:31:21 EDT
From: Hofmann@AMSAA.ARPA
Subject:  foetus

ok, it's alright to CAL yourself
foetus and draw up all sorts of
images about foetus but to show
it in full technicolur
that's wrong? right.  right.


sue, before you go off - at least 
listen to it and read the lyrics.
that is all i have to say.

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Date:     Wed, 21 May 86 22:35:24 EDT
From: Swingset Disaster <hofmann@AMSAA.ARPA>
Subject:  i'm here...

>Re: fads vs. immortality

>< Hof sez rock is a fad >
>This "test-of-time" thing was discussed superbly in a Greg Taylor
>article in net.music. I used to be pretty concerned about whether
>something I like will stand the dreaded "test of time", but then that
>was my (half-discarded) classical training showing :-) :-). Nobody
>can tell what people 100 years from now will consider the real :-) music
>of the 20th century. Maybe rock is just a fad. Maybe it will last.
>If I enjoy it, I'll keep listening and that's enough. (Of course that
>doesn't explain why I get upset about Top 40, but oh well...)

Well, the last statement is what I meant.  I guess if you enjoy prententious
art-rock - that at least is reason for it's existence.  So .... I'm backing
off for now.  

What I meant is that it being a "fad" was what made it so fun - so the butthole
surfers are a "fad" in this sense, they're "new", they do different stuff, etc.
Probably I'll be bored of them in a couple of years or they'll "XXXX" out like
Chriss and Cosey?  So now I'm defending trendoiditis...

On Throbbing Gristle - I think Sonic Youth said: We want to be a cross between
TG and Black Flag.

Krajewski sez about the Buttholes:
>Art Damage (in the Good sense of the phrase) that shakes, rattles, and rolls
Welllll, i don't know if THEY know they're artists  have you asked him, your
bobness? ... 
having seen them live and  seen that video - they come off more like 
drug-crazed individuals who have lots of good, new ideas.  Did they go to Art 
school to get this moniker?   Is *that* what makes people artists?  hm?

>* The Way Heavy Metal Ought to Be: Go see the Meatmen.  You might be
>offended, but you won't be bored (or disappointed, if you've got even the
>tiniest sense of humour).

Sure!  when do they play, though?  There's an interview with them in the
lastest WDC Period - but should inform all those who were offended by the
use of "fag" that they may not enjoy this.  (same for the PMRC)

Alfke defines postmodern and sez:
>Anyhow, don't take it so seriously.
Do the post- moderenists believe that anyone can be an artist?

on promos:
	Just what we need, a morality question.

	How does everyone feel about promotional copies of records
	that always seem to appear at record conventions and used
	record stores.  I seem to have collected quite a few since
	they are generally kept in good shape.
 
	Is it OK to take advantage of a good deal or are we lining 
	the pockets of unscrupulous DJ's at the expense of the artist ?

The promos you see at record stores are usually put there by unscrupulous
people and they're usually in good shape because said unscrupulous people
don't even listen to them.  That's the apparent scoop on WHFS, the so-called
"progressive" commercial radio station in this area.  The only independents
I ever hear them play are the cute, funny ones (Jerks on 45, Faith No More 
and The Pherenomes, for instance) and the music/program director supposedely
doesn't even like rock (except for the Dead (!) ) and listens to jazz at home.

But the question I think to be asked is:  would you rather PAY for the promotion
or trust a label to generally put out good records like Dischord (dj's never
hear about this label since they refuse to promote), Homestead, SST or Crass
(whoops, another English project I like) and charge fair prices (like the avg
dishordian price is $5 mail-order and I think SST is selling their new stuff
for $6.50 mailorder).  Me?  I'd feel just as enriched sampling these labels
because I trust the taste of the people behind them and also respect the
inherent honesty and price.  (not saying ALL independent companies are
sterling examples - note: Enigma and PVC for instance).

Jim Wicinski

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It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under.

Greg Skinner (gregbo)
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