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Love-Hounds Digest			Friday, May 30, 1986, 05:59 EDT

Topics:

			      More KTrivia
			       Few thingz
		  The sweetness of Phenyl-kate-onurics
			 Empty-V Does it Again
	      Ministry's "TWITCH"  ///  Themes For `Grind'
			 The night Chicago died
		    Re: Love-Hounds Digest (2 msgs)
			       Fairlights

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Date:    Sat, 24 May 86 16:01 PDT
From: IED0DXM%UCLAMVS.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU
Subject: More KTrivia

The June issue of Blitz Magazine
(glossy trend-oriented monthly
alot like The Face) has printed an
interview with Peter Gabriel, in which the
interviewer was understandably (though
not necessarily correctly) disillusioned by
what he/she saw as the disposability of So.
He/she also said that the vocal contribution by
Kate (whom he/she calls "our only
genius") was the best thing on the
album, and was frustrated to find
that, when told this to his face,
Gabriel just smiled and "appreciated"
that point of view.

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Date: Sun, 25 May 86 02:09:04 edt
From: Joe Turner <cutter%umass-boston.csnet@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA>
Subject: Few thingz

Anyone ever heard of "The Naughty Sweeties"? Can anyone tell me anything about
them?

Also - flipping through my old albums, I noticed a particularly worn
disc.  I realised it was one of my old standards from my young days as
a tot - an obscure band from (of all places) Israel, with the very
unlikely name of "Poogy". It's early 70s rock, with a tip-o'-the-hat
to The Allman Bros. and "Abbey Road"-style Beatles. If you find any of
their records (on the Hed-Arzi label) for $2 and can handle Hebrew
lyrics, check 'em out. They're pretty catchy, quite competant, and
rather overlooked. (I know this might be better for net.music, but
we're just getting netnews here at UMB and are very limited in who we
can send/receive to/from)

ALSO - If you can find the Peter Gabriel bootleg "Games Without Words", do
so. There is a song called "Instrumental #2" on there that sounds SURPRISINGLY
like "We Do What We're Told" from _So_. And it's much better, too. (So much
for "new" PG music these days... that song is 6 YEARS OLD!)

Mega-review of SO to come, once I stop bouncing off the walls about it.

					"I hear that voice again"
						Joe

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Date:     25-MAY-1986 16:21:21
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I hope I'm not entering into the CD/LP wars too late,
but the arpanet gateway in London has been down for a while,
and I only just got the postings today.

The only point I wanted to make was that, apart from all the
technical pros and cons that were pointed out, one function that
the CD provides is RELATIVELY much better audio for the AVERAGE
LISTENER.  What good are transient frequencies or whatever to a
person who normally listens on a Tandy tape deck? (Hope there are
no Radio Shack employees out there!) Ultra-audiophile systems
are great for those who can afford them, but for the rest of us,
CD's provide "a lifetime of listening pleasure" or whatever that
crappy slogan is on the back of the WEA packaging....

On the other hand, is there any truth to the rumors that the plastic
used in the discs themselves will self-destruct after 10 years due
to smog/atmospheric conditions, or what have you?  Or is this
just another viscious rumor spread by the LP proponents?


Paranoid in Brighton,

Hugh


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Date:    Sun, 25 May 86 17:18 PDT
From: IED0DXM%UCLAMVS.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU
Subject: The sweetness of Phenyl-kate-onurics

The L.A. Times gave So a rave
review, singling out Kate Bush's
singing on "Don't Give Up" as
one of the highpoints. Only "Big
Time" was criticized as too simple
a funk/r'n'b arrangement, with a
protest theme too obviously presented.
Everything else was seen as great.
Hmmmm...
I finally picked out Peter Morris in
Kate's "Big Sky" film, thanks to Doug's
hint that he plays a pilot. In fact there
are at least three pilots, all wearing
fighter pilot caps and goggles, and Peter
is recognizable for an instant on the far
left, as the camera pans by the group.
Now, the only crucial question is whether
one of the pairs of goggles is the same as
that worn by Kate during her performance of
"Lionheart" in the Hammersmith video. (You
will remember that one of that pair's lenses
was cracked...) Doug has already noted a
reference to the Lionheart LP in the film,
and I see an allusion to the "Dreaming" film
in the falcon sequence from "The Big Sky".The
astronauts, of course, can be seen as an echo of "Hello
Earth." Perhaps there are more references to be found.
Does anyone know of any previous reference in
Kate's work to either Superman or Napoleon?
I assume they are merely references to flight --
Napoleon's symbol being the eagle -- and thus
to the sky.

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Date: Mon, 26 May 86 16:43:09 edt
From: Joe Turner <cutter%umass-boston.csnet@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA>
Subject: Empty-V Does it Again

I received the following on my answering machine today, the 26th:

"Hi Joe. This James [my brother]. It's about 1:20 [am] and I just wanted
 to let you know that MTV is showing "Big Sky" right now. God, it's weird!
 Just thought you should know."

Hmm. Seems they have a two-hour "new [hah!] music" show these days, from
12 to 2am on Sundays. Right after "Big Sky", they showed a Jane Siberry
video. Hmm!

And I *still* haven't seen the damn thing yet. Oh sigh.

				"I hear that voice again"

				Save your parity bits for big cash prizes!
						Joe

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Subject: Ministry's "TWITCH"  ///  Themes For `Grind'
Date: Mon, 26 May 86 13:49:56 -0700
From: J. Peter Alfke <alfke@csvax.caltech.edu>

I saw "TWITCH" (new Ministry album) today and, remembering Doug's reccom-
mendation, picked it up -- it's spinning around right now.  Hmmmmmmm.
Definite must-listen for any Cabaret Voltaire types.  It will take a few
more rotations to sink in, but I like it already.

Doug, have you been keeping up with Ministry?  I bought their first album,
but nothing since then -- when did they (he) stop doing stuff like "Work For
Love" (mediocre synth-disco) and start doing this?

(Actually, I do recognize "All Day" -- KROQ was playing it quite a bit some
months ago.  Still a good song.)

//////////////

Industrial-music types, as well as those who are complaining that synths
are too sterile, have too limited a sound, should try to dig up Will
Sergeant's "Themes For `Grind'" album.  Sergeant, you may recall, is the
guitarist of the Bunnymen, but this is nothing like their music.  The
pieces here are bleak industrial soundscapes with incredibly *unusual*,
*dirty*, *rough* synth sounds throughout.  Music to wander through
deserted factories at night by.  A truly chilling experience.  On the
not-even-miniscule "92 Happy Customers" label.  Good luck.

						--Peter Alfke
						  alfke@csvax.caltech.edu
"Grind starts the generator
 the wheel turns
 the small screen flickers"

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Date: Tue, 27 May 86 19:12:45 EDT
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: The night Chicago died

Your humble pseudo-moderator is going away to Chicago for a week to
visit his purty little cousin and aunt and uncle.  While he is away,
Love-Hounds will be running totally on autopilot.  Hopefully the
winds will not be too turbulent and everything will run smoothly
by itself, and the noble Love-Hounds readers will not flame to
any excess which would cause your humble pseudo-moderator to put
his third foot down (no, no you have dirty minds... Puppeteers have
three feet) and say "Cut out the crap, you bozos" if he were here.

			"And we pause for the jets"

			 Doug

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Date:  Thu, 29 May 86 00:19 EDT
From: Tavares@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA
Subject:  Re: Love-Hounds Digest

Whoa, hof!  Ya slandered Tomita, and woke me up!  (You did it a week
ago, but who's counting?)

Tomita may be a "pretentious asshole" to you, but I feel the man was an
early force in bringing the synth into its own as a serious musical
choice.  (Much more consistent than the lighter stuff W.  Carlos was
doing at about that time.)  In my opinion, if you have not heard
Tomita's renditions of Stravinsky, you have not heard Stravinsky.  I
like to think that Stravinsky wrote his stuff expressly for the synth,
but since it hadn't been invented yet, he had to do the best he could
with more primitive things like horsehair, catgut, rosin, felt, steel,
goldbeater skin, brass, etc.

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Date:  Thu, 29 May 86 00:43 EDT
From: Tavares@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA
Subject:  Re: Love-Hounds Digest

All this discussion about Hi-NRG music.  So far, the only hints I have
gleaned from this list is that it is linked to the gay culture and uses
a lot of synths.  Could somebody please give me some example of Hi-NRG
bands or cuts so that I can place what it is you are categorizing?
(Maybe you could pick some that are VERY commercial, so that I will have
had a good chance to hear them.  I'm too far into Rural America to DQ
yer collitch stations n'all.  Not QUITE out into Paul Harvey land, but
you get the idea.)

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Date:     Tue, 27 May 86 11:16:03 EDT
From: John Lorch <harvard!seismo!umcp-cs!jhunix!ecf_hydb>
Subject:  Fairlights

	There seems to be some mis-information on the subject of the Fairlight
C.M.I. (computer musical instrument, methinks. The Fairlight is a synthesizer.
It was originally designed to be the state of the art synthi, and the quite
overused sampling section was tacked on the last minute. It is not just a
sampling keyboard like the Emulator or Mirage - it does synthesis quite well.
I've never been lucky enough to play one (only seen one once), but I
have a friend who uses one in a class.  I'll approach him for more info.

	Oh, yeah, I nearly forgot. Someone mentioned in a previous L.H. that
KB used a Harmonizer on Waking the Witch. My guess is that it was the Fairlight
sampling section - record her lines, then slow them down to lower the pitch.
Does anyone have any input on this theory?

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It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under.

Greg Skinner (gregbo)
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