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More on British PhoneCard

#614
From: wmartin
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1987 20:42
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The following items are from two different issues of the RISKS Digest, and
are followups on the posting I sent to Telecom some issues back on the
possibility of a scheme for toll fraud using the British "PhoneCard":

Will Martin

----- Forwarded message

> Date: Wed 24 Dec 86 09:36:03-PST
> From: Peter G. Neumann <Neumann@CSL.SRI.COM>
> Subject:  Still More on PhoneCards
> To: RISKS@CSL.SRI.COM
> 
> I had a call from Colin Sex at British Telecom at 5PM Christmas Eve GMT.
> He stated that "The card itself is completely secure."  They indeed do a
> READ-AFTER-WRITE check (along with some other checking), so that part of it
> looks OK.  However, there are problems with physical damage to the laser
> reader/writer.  In the case at hand, nail polish had been caked onto the
> card, and gummed up the works.  But in such cases the unit is supposed
> either to reject the card, or else keep the card if it cannot eject it --
> and then shut down.  I think they are still vulnerable to some active-card
> attacks, but on the whole they think they protect themselves well against
> the man on the street.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> [It is altogether possible that BT is covering up.  On the other hand,
> their description of the system (by phone, to me) stated that the
> READ-AFTER-WRITE check is properly implemented and that there are three 
> other checks as well.  They claim that the Sunday Post will print a
> retraction.  (As yet no one has reported seeing it.)  Of course, there
> may be still be other vulnerabilities.  RISKS readers are learning to look 
> the proverbial gift horse in the mouth, as well as the horse you had to
> pay a fortune for.  PGN]

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