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Started by Edward Vielmetti
Tue, 06 Oct 1992 17:04
The Smallest US Telephone Company
Author: Edward Vielmetti
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 17:04
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 17:04
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anyone who wants to be their own michigan telco, here's what you'd need to do. 30-40 customers ready and waiting for your dial tone! --Ed [ Article crossposted from comp.dcom.telecom ] [ Author was Jack@myamiga.mixcom.com ] [ Posted on Mon, 5 Oct 92 16:23:00 CST ] In message <telecom12.751.6@eecs.nwu.edu>, gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener) wrote: > In article <telecom12.748.5@eecs.nwu.edu> TELECOM Moderator notes: >> the smallest phone company however. There is (or was) a guy in >> Colorado who owned a telco with *eight* subscribers. > How does he qualify as a telco per se? How does this differ from any > organization that buys its own PBX? Or is the distinction that any > call outside of the local equipment is long-distance? One distinction (at least in Michigan) is that you have to get a license from the Public Service Commission to be a phone company, and one of the documents you have to file is a map or geographic description of your exchange boundaries. An organization that has its own PBX most likely will already be within the service area of a licensed carrier, and thus is not eligible to form their own phone company (at least until the law is changed to allow local competition). Now, if you are with a company that really wants to be its own local exchange carrier, come up to East Lake in Michigan's beautiful Upper Peninsula. You'll probably be required to provide local service to the 30 or 40 residents that want phone service in the area, but I can guarantee you that no one will object to you starting a local phone company there (East Lake is like an albatross around the neck of the PSC in this state ... it's a problem that won't go away!). Only one problem, you may have difficulty acquiring enough privately owned land for your operation since most of the land is national forest. > Incidentally, I've always wondered ... hypothetical: someone moves out > to the middle of nowhere ... buys switch and hooks up 30 odd > subscribers to old used SxS ... how does he go about getting long > distance connectivity? Ah, there's the rub! Used to be you just went to the nearest major carrier (usually the nearby Bell or GTE company) and they were more than happy to acquire new customers. Now, however, Bell actually wants money to provide this connectivity. For providing long distance service to East Lake (a distance of about 10 to 15 miles from their nearest exchange ... and their fiber optic toll cable actually runs THROUGH the affected area), they wanted over $100,000. Were it not for that, the folks in East Lake might have phone service today. (One other wrinkle on this story: I found out a couple months ago that GTE North purchased a $2 million wireless rural system to provide service to some unserved customers in their territory, that would also have been capable of serving the folks in East Lake. Only thing is, East Lake is only about 40 miles or so from the Canadian border, and nobody at GTE bothered to get the necessary approval from the Canadian government (required by some treaty) before purchasing the system. I hear they've put in the application now, but if the Canadian government turns thumbs down, GTE just bought a $2 million boat anchor, for all practical purposes. PLEASE NOTE that I got this info secondhand from a source at the PSC, so please don't ask me for any more details on this, and don't quote it as absolute fact to anyone else without checking the details first). > [Moderator's Note: I think he qualifies as a telco instead of a 'PBX' > because he has several users who are not associated with each other > through any common affinity group, i.e. not all of the same employer; > not all of the same residential premises, etc. To get long distance > service he cuts a deal with the various carriers. That is how it is > done now days. Anyone can be a telco; anyone can be an LD carrier. PAT] I'd still like to know if there is ANY place in the United States where there is REAL competition for local dial tone for RESIDENTIAL customers. If there is no such place, then I would say that the statement that "anyone can be a telco" rather oversimplifies the true situation. Jack Decker jack@myamiga.mixcom.com FidoNet 1:154/8
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