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Article #1050Re: Illegal Guns (was: Re: The Montreal massacre - this date, 1989....)
From: Orion
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 00:00
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 1995 00:00
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CA> <DJMLFz.7G5@freenet.carleton.ca>: Distribution: Colin R. Leech (ag414@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote: : Rosco (Roger_Walker@CUEHere.Edmonton.AB.CA) writes: : > In article <damboisc.818529361@alize.ERE.UMontreal.CA> D'Amboise Charles : > (damboisc@ERE.UMontreal.CA) wrote: : > : >> Of all the crimes made with guns in Canada, 50% are made with legal guns : >> which do not come from the black market. (fact) : > : > The OPP recently had an exercise (Operation Gunrunner) where they identified : > firearms used in crime. I believe they found that 85% or more were of the : > illegal type. : The debate over the availability of illegal guns is a common one among gun : supporters, but it is really a red herring. For starters, people have to : go to some effort to obtain an illegal weapon, which restricts the number : of people who will bother to go this route. Secondly, there are so many : illegal weapons because the gun control laws in the US are virtually : non-existant. If the US enacted tougher legislation similar to Canada (a : person can dream, can't he?), the supply of illegal guns would be cut : dramatically. It's not too hard to travel to the US, buy a gun, and slip : it into your suitcase to drive back across the border. ...and with that last line you've handily succeeded in shooting down *your own* argument, Colin...since further restrictions on firearms ownership in Canada will make it even easier to buy a black-market weapon as the supply increases to meet the demand. :) (not that there is any supply problem in any reasonable-sized city; reportedly it only takes a matters of hours anyway) Not one person has been able to point out how gun registration in Canada will make it any tougher for *criminals* to get guns; like you, most of the anti-gun hysterics seem content to ignore that nagging little 'detail' in favor of removing guns from the people who are the LEAST likely to commit crimes with them (!). Great 'reasoning' indeed.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f504b,1cce3fa1d2950587 X-Google-Attributes: gidf504b,public X-Google-Thread: 10ea42,1cce3fa1d2950587 X-Google-Attributes: gid10ea42,public X-Google-Thread: 100c8e,1cce3fa1d2950587 X-Google-Attributes: gid100c8e,public X-Google-Thread: 111b2d,1cce3fa1d2950587 X-Google-Attributes: gid111b2d,public X-Google-Thread: 114af9,1cce3fa1d2950587 X-Google-Attributes: gid114af9,public X-Google-Thread: 112f74,1cce3fa1d2950587 X-Google-Attributes: gid112f74,public X-Google-Thread: f7b9c,1cce3fa1d2950587 X-Google-Attributes: gidf7b9c,public X-Google-Thread: 106cdd,1cce3fa1d2950587 X-Google-Attributes: gid106cdd,public From: orion@unix.infoserve.net (Orion) Subject: Re: Illegal Guns (was: Re: The Montreal massacre - this date, 1989....) Date: 1995/12/16 Message-ID: <4atbc9$cgi@news.infoserve.net> X-Deja-AN: 121918574 references: <DJ6n9B.6GF@freenet.carleton.ca> <4a73sh$8hk@gold.interlog.com> <nbfa.198.001BA63E@fox.nstn.ca> <4aaji9$fe7@gold.interlog.com> <4ac7rl$qr@tomcat.sasknet.sk.ca> <damboisc.818529361@alize.ERE.UMontreal.CA> <Roger_Walker.6wuk@CUEHere.Edmonton.AB. followup-to: mtl.general,qc.general,can.general,ab.general,bc.general,nb.general,nf.general,ns.general,can.talk.guns newsgroups: mtl.general,qc.general,can.general,ab.general,bc.general,nb.general,nf.general,ns.general,can.talk.guns