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ag414@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Colin R. Leech) wrote:


>Boris Gimbarzevsky (borisg@unixg.ubc.ca) writes:
>> daremo@igs.net (DJ MacIntyre) writes:
>>> What I want to know, is where all the guys were, where they were
>>>HIDING when this was going on. It's our APATHETIC, OBEDIENT SHEEP
>>>society that allowed this to happen.

>Gimme a break. WOuld *you* have rushed a madman waving a gun? Not bloody
>likely, unless you would prefer to be a *dead* hero. OTOH, if he had been
>carrying a knife instead, there is a chance that 3 or 4 husky guys could
>have cornered him in a corner for a while, thus slowing down if not
>stopping his rampage of death.

Twenty four feet.  That is the distance that you can be from an armed
person and get to them before they can get an effective round off in
defence.  While Lepine was reloading his magazine, anyone with a
reasonable knowledge of self defence within this distance could have
effectively disarmed him with virtually NO RISK to their saftey
(certainly when weighed against the risk associated with allowing him
to reload).  If he had a knife instead of a gun, this would no longer
apply.

>Boris, your writings are total bunkum. It's easy to sit behind a computer
>keyboard after the fact and slam everybody else for doing nothing. If you
>had been there, I doubt if you would have done anything either. If you
>had, you likely wouldn't be sitting there ranting away at your keyboard
>either. Perhaps you've been watching too many Rambo or McGyver movies if
>you think that an unarmed civilian is going to stop a madman with a gun.
>Get out of your ivory tower and wake up to the real world.

I don't think that Boris was 'slamming' anyone.  I think that he was
making a statement about our society.  If so, I would agree with him.
Talk to any cop about this and you will hear endless stories of people
saying "I would like to help you in your investigation, officer, but I
don't want to get involved."  In this situation there certainly is no
legal obligation to defend anyone.  I, for one, would not have allowed
Lepine to reload.  But that is up to the individual and the situation.
For you to say that Boris or I would act otherwise is totally unfair,
and would be tantamount to me saying that you should have stopped it.

Chris McLeod.
chris.mcleod@sasknet.sk.ca

    "I do not expect this bill to have any effect on violent
    crime in Canada."
                                           -Allan Rock.
                                            Minister of Justice.