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Article #1241French mythology - Federal hirings: 71% francophone, promotions: 68% francophone -
From: Concerned Canadian
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 21:15
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 21:15
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The English should vote with one voice (like the French) for an English Prime Minister - the French liberals are controlling the English through Bilingualism and allowing the French a disproportionate number of votes, senators and unearned power! Paul Martin like Mulroney is French and will cater to Quebec! As a former Qu๏ฟฝbecois who is trilingual, I find your insensitive and naieve point of view very disturbing. Deep Blue had you grown up in Quebec where English immersion is illegal, you would be unilingual French. Are you presuming that because you have had French parents and lived in Ontario that you are superior to unilingual Quebecois, the English, the Chinese, Arabs, Hatiians , Spanish, Ukranian and other unilingual Canadians. As an educator who has taught French, the reality is that the vast majority of supposed Bilingual assimilated Franco-Ontarions cannot speak or Write French properly. The poor quality of Joyal French is quite honestly atrocious compared to true Quebecois or French from France. Franco-Ontarions Work in English speaking 4 words of French and 3 words of English (worse then Acadian French). Many don't even speak French in their homes so what kind of nonsense is this 57 billion (Canadian Tax payer statistics since conception) french bilingual mythology (6 billion a year or more) Franco-Ontarion french is similar to the English spoken by some Southern Americans. The French language is meant to show that the mastery of French can often only be achieved by the most skilled and well educated aristocrats. French is a melodious language designed to confuse. The French who know their language well, who are flawless find English to be more expedient, clear and faster to use. Very few French truly master their own language. French is an impractical language for modern times. French is an intolerant language and a beautiful luxury for those who have time to show it off. Many Franco Ontarions can barely draft a French letter and most times send it to translators (at great cost to mostly English Canadians footing the bill for this atrocious illiteracy)! Jean Chretien himself can speak neither French nor English properly. When traveling through France, the French have difficulty understanding Quebecers and an even worse time with Ontario Francophones! I challenge Deep blue to learn a language the hard way (not through his parents and local community but in a school) like most of us who understand what it actually takes to learn languages. Deep Blue take a German course, then never get to practice German (as most English NEVER EVER get to practice French) and then see if you actually learn German! Or take flying lessons but never fly a plane, would you be a pilot? Shame on you for perpetuating a myth that the English are somehow NOT trying to learn French. The 400,000 English etc. forced out of Quebec (National Geographic Nov 97) were the unwanted Bilingual forced out with the abusive and illegal racist , ethnic cleansing Bill C 101 , a United Nations violation. However since they don't have a French name in this Bilingualism undemocratic French CLASS system, even if they pass the ridiculous Kurdish exam, and French exam, within the Government and military, they cannot get promoted! English students competing against Franco-Ontarions who force their way into English High School French Immersion programs (where these French students are bored, increase class sizes to an unnecessary 36 or more) , then demand a Higher level of French rather then having these children in a French High school to begin with (the reason is the French child CANNOT master French i.e. their marks would be in the low 50's or 60's! Meanwhile the English child faces a French teacher that ignores them , focuses on the French children and refuses to help the English children in any way until the English quit so they can actually get an education. I've tutored these High School students who've worked hard learning French which they NEVER get to REALLY use and spoken to these teachers who could care less about their English students because the English are the enemy! There is a shortage of French teachers and many are incompetent, speak Creole (a French haitian dialect) and could care less about teaching French for the love of the language. French learning English in Quebec (when they are able to get private tutors) whether children or adults generally learn English in 6 to 12 months simply because ENGLISH IS EASIER PERIOD and they hear it on television and use it on the internet and in 9 other provinces + Florida!! Chinese learn English, Yugoslavians learn English, etc. Some French who travel to Florida think the Americans even should learn French! The French aren't getting married and aren't having children. If you don't include Quebec (where English is illegal and the majority are unilingual) ONLY 3.2% outside Quebec are french. The Montfort Hospital in Ottawa thinks it's in Quebec and DOESN't have to offer English including SARS signs or speak English for its MOSTLY English patients. Maybe the English should refuse to go there until it closes down. Air Canada in ruins (maybe if we didn't spend so much on Bilingualism, we'd have an air line, an Armed Forces that isn't a joke , Health Care that isn't in crisis, a decent Education system (the bottom line is children should be literate and bilingualism is a failure according to studies done on it! There are many Anglophones who were forced out of Quebec with sentiments like Vauten Chez Vous Maudit Anglais (go home stupid English) , Ferme ta Yelle Tetu (shut your muzzle sucker) told constantly that they were 2nd class citizens, Rheal Mathieu getting only 6 months as an FLQ terrorist who bombed 2nd cup (oh yes Deep Blue) I forgot he's a Quebec hero! 400,000 forced out of Quebec due to ethnic cleansing and racism (National Geographic Nov 1997) The English losing their jobs in Quebec city for daring to speak English to a family member. After all Quebec with it's illegal United Nations violation Bill C101 (article 20) : any advocacy of national , racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence shall be prohibited by law. meanwhile our 35 years of French politicians has allowed this hatred of the English, perpetuated it. How about the King of France 1759 when he abandoned the French and created fear (guess he like the others who got executed during the French revolution was a saint), What about the French Catholic church (I am Catholic), I guess they were innocent forcing the French to have 13 to 24 unwanted children and NOT allowing them to get an education (they could be priests, doctors, lawyers and very little else) Premier Duplesis from the 1930's to the 1960's also CONTROLED the French. (including abusing Orphans falsely saying they were mentally challenged or giving them labotomies along with the french catholic church! With Bill C101 , language Police , the Government to this day promotes Hatred of the English and CONTROLS the french by NOT allowing them to learn English. Quebec is a Police State two new books called le candien noir and l'americain noir (The ugly English canadian and the Ugly American! So much for Pride in being of French decent or promoting Bilingualism The English should vote with one voice (like the French) for an English Prime Minister - the French liberals are controling the English through Bilingualism and allowing the French a disproportionate number of votes, senators and unearned power! Paul Martin like Mulroney is French and will cater to Quebec! End the 36 year reign of French prime ministers! CC Deep Blue <nobody@igs.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deep Blue" <nobody@igs.net> Newsgroups: mtl.general,can.politics,tor.general,van.general,calgary.general Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 5:11 AM Subject: Re: Federal hirings: 71% francophone, promotions: 68% francophone > Well, it's all your fault, english people! If only you were doing the same > efforts to speak french that us french people do to speak english, those > stats would be more fair for you. > > And we're all still Canadians (no i'm not a separatist). So who cares if > there's more francophones than anglophones??? Just learn the french language > and be bilingual and get hired / promoted too ! > > And while I love english because it's a very practical and direct language, > french is so beautiful and poetic! It's worth to learn it just to read all > those french books. > > "Deep Blue" <nobody@igs.net> wrote in message news:f2643490a599d002feeeebc0106a8fac@news.teranews.com... > Well, it's all your fault, english people! If only you were doing the same > efforts to speak french that us french people do to speak english, those > stats would be more fair for you. > > And we're all still Canadians (no i'm not a separatist). So who cares if > there's more francophones than anglophones??? Just learn the french language > and be bilingual and get hired / promoted too ! > > And while I love english because it's a very practical and direct language, > french is so beautiful and poetic! It's worth to learn it just to read all > those french books. > > > > ~Deep Blue~ > > "Andrew Bestfrenn" <Andrewbestfrenn@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:c499781f.0304050425.47fd67db@posting.google.com... > > Global National News with Kevin Newman audio link > > > > Hear audio of Global Television News story confirming > > that 71% of all new hirings in the massive federal > > public service are going to Francophones, and that 68% of > > all job promotions are going to Francophones. Due to official > > bilingualism, while Quebec is allowed to remain officially unilingual > > French. Francophones make up only a tiny fraction of the population > > outside Quebec, yet we are allowing them to take over our federal > > government. > > > > to hear the Global News audio > > click here: > > http://www.languagefairness.org/mp3/global.mp3 > > > > to hear a tape of human rights expert Dr. Ritchie on this > > topic go to: > > > > http://www.languagefairness.org/mp3/CFRA-Part1.mp3 > > > > and > > > > http://www.languagefairness.org/mp3/3minclipDrRitchie04.mp3 > > > > for further information: > > > > > > www.languagefairness.org > >
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