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Re: Silly Argument

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From: Sirius
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:00
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I will answer you in English since you are new to Montr�al and probably do
not understand a word of French. I must say that you have a very good point
and this is a question that I have asked myself.

What is the difference between a French and an English in Qu�bec?

Well not much except the language, you must think. You are partially right.
Basic people with low education level will adopt the American ''culture'',
there is not doubt with that. However, educated people (most of them) will
be more tuned towards France for the literature and the culture. These are a
good part of the s�paratistes and it is not what English understand from
what I can see. They seem to think the opposite. Actually, the uneducated
people, that are oriented towards USA, feel like they are loosers because
they do not speak English and they wish they were Americans. These people
are the ones who voted *NO* at the referendum. As a consequence, these are
also the people that are the most suceptible to switch to *YES* by listening
to stupid English like the ones we see on this newsgroup. Unfortunately,
most uneducated French are not on the Internet, but there are plenty of
other English whiner assholes everywhere doing a good job.

When you say that Montr�al is as bourgeois as any other city in Canada, you
are right if you stay and work downtown. The reason is that it is the
business district and you will only find English and other immigrants there.
If you want to see the real French, go to the live theater, go drink a
coffee in a little caf�, go listen to a classic music concert, do not stick
in the business district, you will not find any there.

Regarding Paris, be careful. This will not give you a good idea of France.
Paris is, like almost any big city, populated with immigrants, not much real
French there, but lots of tourists. Go to the ''Province'' instead.

Welcome to Montr�al, you seem open-minded, unlike most of other English
here. I am sure that if you stay here long enough you will try to speak
French and you will not regret it. French is a beautiful and rich language.
You will also find that if you have questions about the French language,
everybody will be very pleased to answer you. Most of educated people love
their language and are delighted to share it. What amazes me is that English
here do not jump on the opportunity to learn French. Well I understand why,
but believe me, the language is everything and you will not see the world
exactly the same after you know French. English here are stubborn and do not
learn French because they are lazy and for them it is a language of loosers,
and they would not make any money out of it. They are wrong. Do not be like
them.

Do not believe what you hear : there are smart, educated, open-minded French
people.


Ariane Lantz wrote in message ...
>yes this is a very silly argument, but being new to montreal, i find most
>arguments here to be a bit worse than silly.  monsieur capitaine, or
>whatever his name was raised a good point earlier, about english culture
>being more pragmatist and wealth-oriented, while french culture was more
>"tender, poetic, and communitarian".  On the whole I have to agree and
>this is why I moved to montreal from the west coast.  but i have to ask,
>which french culture?  quebec or france?  montreal is as bourgeois and as
>mindlessly materialistic as is say, ontario or anywhere else in canada for
>that matter.  having been from coast to coast more than once i have to say
>that quebec is certainly more canadian than french.  and although i though
>montreal would be a good place for someone who is sick of anglo-protestant
>north america, i'm beginning to reconsider.  Paris is looking better all
>the time.
>
>
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From: "Sirius" <sirius@total.net>
Subject: Re: Silly Argument
Date: 1998/10/21
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