🚀 go-pugleaf

You seem to value an open mind, yet your post must have at least a dozen
generalities.  There's an English expression that comes to mind: People that
live in glass houses should not through stones.  Yours is a fine example of
the mentality you so despise.

-Phil



Sirius wrote in message <362e1ba6.0@news.total.net>...
>I will answer you in English since you are new to Montr�al and probably do
>not understand a word of French. I must say that you have a very good point
>and this is a question that I have asked myself.
>
>What is the difference between a French and an English in Qu�bec?
>
>Well not much except the language, you must think. You are partially right.
>Basic people with low education level will adopt the American ''culture'',
>there is not doubt with that. However, educated people (most of them) will
>be more tuned towards France for the literature and the culture. These are
a
>good part of the s�paratistes and it is not what English understand from
>what I can see. They seem to think the opposite. Actually, the uneducated
>people, that are oriented towards USA, feel like they are loosers because
>they do not speak English and they wish they were Americans. These people
>are the ones who voted *NO* at the referendum. As a consequence, these are
>also the people that are the most suceptible to switch to *YES* by
listening
>to stupid English like the ones we see on this newsgroup. Unfortunately,
>most uneducated French are not on the Internet, but there are plenty of
>other English whiner assholes everywhere doing a good job.
>
>When you say that Montr�al is as bourgeois as any other city in Canada, you
>are right if you stay and work downtown. The reason is that it is the
>business district and you will only find English and other immigrants
there.
>If you want to see the real French, go to the live theater, go drink a
>coffee in a little caf�, go listen to a classic music concert, do not stick
>in the business district, you will not find any there.
>
>Regarding Paris, be careful. This will not give you a good idea of France.
>Paris is, like almost any big city, populated with immigrants, not much
real
>French there, but lots of tourists. Go to the ''Province'' instead.
>
>Welcome to Montr�al, you seem open-minded, unlike most of other English
>here. I am sure that if you stay here long enough you will try to speak
>French and you will not regret it. French is a beautiful and rich language.
>You will also find that if you have questions about the French language,
>everybody will be very pleased to answer you. Most of educated people love
>their language and are delighted to share it. What amazes me is that
English
>here do not jump on the opportunity to learn French. Well I understand why,
>but believe me, the language is everything and you will not see the world
>exactly the same after you know French. English here are stubborn and do
not
>learn French because they are lazy and for them it is a language of
loosers,
>and they would not make any money out of it. They are wrong. Do not be like
>them.
>
>Do not believe what you hear : there are smart, educated, open-minded
French
>people.
>
>
>Ariane Lantz wrote in message ...
>>yes this is a very silly argument, but being new to montreal, i find most
>>arguments here to be a bit worse than silly.  monsieur capitaine, or
>>whatever his name was raised a good point earlier, about english culture
>>being more pragmatist and wealth-oriented, while french culture was more
>>"tender, poetic, and communitarian".  On the whole I have to agree and
>>this is why I moved to montreal from the west coast.  but i have to ask,
>>which french culture?  quebec or france?  montreal is as bourgeois and as
>>mindlessly materialistic as is say, ontario or anywhere else in canada for
>>that matter.  having been from coast to coast more than once i have to say
>>that quebec is certainly more canadian than french.  and although i though
>>montreal would be a good place for someone who is sick of anglo-protestant
>>north america, i'm beginning to reconsider.  Paris is looking better all
>>the time.
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