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Article #1287Re: Federal hirings: 71% francophone, promotions: 68% francophone
From: CalgaryBill
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 16:31
Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 16:31
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"Basilic" <basilic@basilic.pot> wrote in message news:3e92f7bc_2@aeinews.... > > > > Actually, we are not all Canadians. There are Canadians and there are > French > > Canadians. The French Canadians are a warm hearted wonderful group. But > they are > > a group, and what my seventy odd years of working beside and with them has > shown > > me, is that their history has taught them to look after their brothers, > sisters, > > cousins, community, region and province to the exclusion of all else. In a > word > > they exhibit a siege mentality. They are for anything French Canadian and > > against anything not French Canadian. It's a wonderful trait but it is the > basis > > of systemic racism. > > Walt, > > Systemic racism is everywhere. Within all kinds of communities (you call > them groups) there is favouritism. Look at other > communities/cultures/groups, for example Jews stick with Jews, whether they > speak French English Russian Chinese, they will hire thier own kind. Same > could be said during the European influx to Canada after WW2, the Italians, > Germans, Irish, etc. stuck together and hired each other just on the basis > of where they came from and what language they spoke. Today it is other > cultures like, Chinese, Arab, Mexican which are the highest immigrants and > if any of them get into a position of hiring power, well chances are that > they will choose thier own. It's cultures who stick together, like families, > who else is going to look out for you in this day and age? > > It also happens outside of any, as you call it systemic rasism. If a friend > of mine is in a hiring position, don't you think that I will have a better > chance of getting hired over you? > > Speaking multiple languages is an asset in todays world, although French is > not going to be the worlds second language, it's a good base for other > languages such as Latin, Italian, Portugese and especially Spanish. So why > don't we make Canada truly bilingual and then the whole country will be 1 > big happy group and then we could get on with more important business such > as getting the economy out of the crapper. Plus, we could create our own > little language called Franglais. > > Basilic I think it's important to understand that this is a major cultural-political difference between Canadians and Americans. The U.S. has the concept / principle of a "melting pot", where there's an assumption that eventually, you will have a hybridized / mongrelized (this is NOT an insult) where ultimately there is a homogenous society. On the other hand, from it's earliest days, Canada has avoided this principle. We have cultural enclaves all over the country, and expect the cultures to provide a synergistic boost to our nation (originally called bi-culturalism, and in recent decades multi-culturalism). As Canadians we are not for homogenization of cultures.
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