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Re: * Refrendum

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From: Normand Jubinville
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 00:00
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M. Savard,
I live in a small town 30 min from Montreal  Here almost nobody speak
english.  The town is 98% french speaking people.  But you can come in any
place and ask somting in english and sombody will be able to answer you.  We
learn english as a second language early in school.  Some will say that we
ahve no choices.  Maybe it smart to speak english in north america.  But how
will we explain that the spanish course is the most popular of all at the
college.  Why so many adults do spend one night per week learning spanish?
We are not surounded by spanish speaking people.  What is your idea?

jsavard@ecn.ab.ca a οΏ½crit dans le message <366cbb07.0@ecn.ab.ca>...
>Michele (Michele@me.com) wrote:
>quoting another post:
>
>: > That's true.  No one should be forced to learn another language. For
>: > most Anglos French is a waist of time because all the French speak
>: > English, =
>
>: That is a very prejudiced comment to make. Why should all the people in
>: Quebec be EXPECTED to speak english? It's okay for people who speak
>: english not to speak french so why cant it be the other way around. At
>: least the french make the effort to speak english which is more than i
>: can say for most other canadians. =
>
>Well, it isn't true that all the French in Quebec speak English.
>
>However, enough of them do - they do so because they have chosen to learn
>English for a personal economic advantage. For access to the money held by
>all those English Canadians and all those Americans who speak English. Not
>because they have been forced to, or expected to.
>
>The English have not been under the compulsion to make such an effort: and
>it is a big effort, so it is not a thing to be surprised at that they have
>not.
>
>People don't voluntarily make huge sacrifices of their time and effort so
>that other people who are slightly disadvantaged can enjoy full equality:
>we have the government to force people to do such things. Prejudice has
>nothing to do with it; English speakers decline to learn French not
>because they think French is a poor language, or people of French origin
>are stupid or something, but because it is work that doesn't bring a
>profit.
>
>Why do so many Mexicans learn English, while so few Americans learn
>Spanish? Money and jobs.
>
>Or do you genuinely think that, after so much abuse and bigotry from
>English Canada, still, because the goodness of their hearts is so great,
>French Canadians are learning to speak English as a gesture of goodwill,
>as a duty for keeping the country together, and then they turn around and
>vote Yes in the referendums?
>
>Whether someone is English or French, even a kind and generous person must
>spend most of his time on the selfish pursuit of earning a living for
>himself and his family. The French have been in the unfortunate situation
>of needing to include, in many cases, learning English as part of this
>important task.
>
>I don't deny that this is something they have a right to be annoyed about.
>But it is a situation that results from the disparity in numbers, not from
>active bigotry or government discrimination.
>
>John Savard


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From: "Normand Jubinville" <njubinville@ntic.qc.ca>
Subject: Re: * Refrendum
Date: 1998/12/08
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