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Re: Quebec autonomy .......wow !!!(1)

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From: lucief
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 00:00
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In <4p2bbi$lut@tandem.CAM.ORG>, aulne@CAM.ORG writes:
>In <mramshaw.213.00A75B00@finning.ca>, mramshaw@finning.ca (Martin Ramshaw) ecrivais:
>
>>In article <4p14rv$c1o@tandem.CAM.ORG> aulne@CAM.ORG writes:
>
>>>In <4ovn5f$o5q@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>, dlevin2@po-box.mcgill.ca (Darryl Levine)
>>>ecrivais:
>
>>>>(1) I live in Quebec.  To imply that just because I write in English I must
>>>live
>>>>on Ontario or Alberta is so typical of Quebec nationalists who try to impose
>>>>a fiction on Quebec
>
>>>It is common, though, to find people in Quebec, /born/ and raised there, that
>>>do not have any knowledge of the language spoken by the majority.  As if, 
>>>as if... they were living in their own bubble when compared to the majority of
>>>people.
>
>>>This means that the infrastructure implemented to support one through life
>>>in English only is not only viable, it is strong, on the economic level as well.
>>>What with schools, universities, etc...  These people do not live in Quebec
>
>>Meaning, of course, Quebec as defined by YOU. 
>
>Thanks.  My mind power must be so great as to build all the English 
>universities, schools, the whole English infrastructure that can assure an
>English-only living in Montreal.
>
>Talk about mind power.  Throughly flabbergasted.
>
>>There are chinese speaking 
>>quebeckers who have no recourse to languages other than Chinese, as well as 
>>the anglophone quebeckers you refer to. Should THEIR rights be trampled on, as 
>>well ?
>
>Hmmm... I don't recall any Chinese university in Montreal.
>
>>And, by the way, most of these institutions you mention, are just that 
>>- institutions - which were constituted in the legal sense (many pre-date 
>>Canada) and funded by private subscription. That is the reason that most of 
>>them still exist - they were not gifts of the government and therefore cannot 
>>be repossessed by the government.
>
>Who talks about repossession?  I was only slightly describing the 
>infrastructure that exists.
>
>>>although they are, physically.  They live in Canada and they are cut apart from
>>>the majority (i.e. the Quebecois society as understood by the majority) of 
>>>people, often looking to eventually pursue their carreers elsewhere in Canada,
>>>or simply elsewhere.
>>>So you see, you claim nationalists impose a fiction on Quebec by telling  
>>>that the English-only speaking indivduals have to come from elsewhere than
>>>Quebec.  
>
>>>This is untrue.
>
>>I think you have just confirmed the original point made by D. Levine.
>
>Which was?  That you can live in Montreal ignoring the majority?
>
Pourquoi vous ne partez pas un groupe de discussion qui s'intitulerait qc.english,
j'aimerais conserver celui-ci dans sa langue originale.  Exprimez-vous dans la 
langue de votre choix, mais faites-le la ou c'est approprie!!!


>Alain
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From: lucief@ibm.net
Subject: Re: Quebec autonomy .......wow !!!(1)
Date: 1996/06/10
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