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Re: * Criticizing one's English skills...

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From: Marc Bissonnette
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:00
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In article <363507eb.1463820@news.sprint.ca>, 
masa@radiotelephone.net.PAS_DE_SPAM says...
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>People who are criticizing my English skills in Canada is equally like
>I am criticizing Japanese skills for people who came from China or
>Korea, for example,  in Japan (which I am NOT doing), to poke fun and
>to prevent making one's opinions as well as to bash one into hell.   
>I determine that such practise is acceptable in Canada (at least for
>some anglophones) by reading the responses in the newsgroups. This is
>not a stereotype, but it is just a fact at least in the newsgroups.
>Especially when someone does not agree with opinions for someone
>,including myself, who has come from different countries, criticizing
>English skills is one of the important factors for anglophones in
>Canada to force to make some senses such that his opinion is correct
>or else superior over the person whom he is criticizing of.

For what it's worth, when someone has to stoop so low as to criticize your 
language skills in an obviously vindictive manner, it usually means they can't 
refute your own argument, so they stoop to the childish. It's the same as 
responding to a Usenet post criticizing spelling or typos (Unless the 
originator is a despised twit, in which case, they're open season to all :)

>By the way (2), universities in Canada require candidates to
>demonstrate English proficiency in terms of Grade 12 English score or
>essay placement test.    I hear bad and bad stories about them but
>ones who will take the advantage of such systems are students who come
>from outside including myself.   You should blame for the failure of
>your own bash-out system, not the ones who satisfy the requirements
>who come from outside (while many Canadians don't satisfy such
>requirements.)

While I am sure this is frustrating to the immigrants, there is a reason for 
it. It makes your transition to Canadian society a little easier (after all, 
English is spoken by the majority, as well as being the business language of 
choice) and it ensures you are a productive member of society faster (Yes, it's 
a cash-grab, but true, nonetheless). As for some Canadians being equally poor 
in their language skills, this is equally true no matter where you emmigrate 
to: The immigrants have to prove they will contribute to the society, rather 
than being a drag upon it (after all, as you pointed out, each country has it's 
own bottom-draggers to take care of, why import more?)

For what it's worth, and in case no one else has said it, welcome to Canada; We 
have our twits and our morons, but I think you'll find that we truly do live in 
one of the best countries in the world. AT least here, you can be proud of the 
fact that you are a Japanese Canadian, and always will be, rather than be 
forced to become a part of a cultural melting pot, as our neighbours to the 
south :)

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Marc Bissonnette
InternAlysis
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From: dragnet@internalysis.com (Marc Bissonnette)
Subject: Re: * Criticizing one's English skills...
Date: 1998/10/27
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