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Re: International Students

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From: Partner
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 00:00
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G. Whizz, your edit is worse than the original !


>The University of British Columbia, The University of Victoria and
>community colleges in BC, where most Asians Students reside, requires
>all students write an essay placement test for first year English

require - not requires !

> The only exception
>to this prerequisite exam is extended to those students achieving an
>"A" in the British Columbia grade 12 English Provincial Exam.

"those" is redundant

>Most Asian Students are predicted to pass the test, as I had.

"predicted" is the wrong word. perhaps expected.
"as I had" is wrong.  "had" should patch a past perfect case in the first
clausse, but there isn't one. "was" might be acceptable - as in "was
expected", or "did" as in "I did pass". Generally this is just a badly
constructed sentence.

> proficiency in English in our universities

Style. IN English AT our universities

> I personally received one
>of the highest score in English at British Columbia high school.

SCORES !! It's plural.


>The lack of English proficiency blame rests with you before others.

Grammatically incorrect or at least VERY awkward.
How about;
The responsibility for low English proficiency lies .......


G. Whizz wrote in message <36202b65.44555908@news.intouch.bc.ca>...
>On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 00:08:57 GMT, masa@radiotelephone.net.PAS_DE_SPAM
>(Masataka Noda) wrote:
>
>>Michael H. wrote
>>
>>>One would think that most universities don't have their own entrance
>>>exams, judging by the importance that many international students
>>>(e.g.
>>>the above poster) attach to the TOEFL.
>>
>>
>>UBC, UVic etc.
>
>The abbreviation etc. should be preceded by a comma.
>
>>including community colleges) in BC where most of the
>>Asians reside, will require you to write an essay placement test for
>>first year English (first year English is a graduation requirement).
>>There are no exceptions for this exam except for the students who
>>achieve A in BC grade 12 English provincial exam.
>>Most Asians would pass the test ,like I did,
>
>More correctly consider "[as] I did," rather than [like]
>
>>hile I saw many failures
>
>Consider deleting the space befor the punctuation mark.
>
>>among Canadian students.     Increasing the English proficiency etc.
>
>Again, the abbreviation etc. should be preceded by a comma.
>
>>will not kick out Asians... rather help to increase the number of
>>Asians in the university.    Sorry !
>
>Consider deleting the space before the punctuation exclamation mark.
>
>>If you want to blame for lack
>>of proficiency in English at university etc.,
>
>And once again,  the abbreviation etc. should be preceded by a comma.
>In addition, consider revising.  Long sequences of prepositional
>phrasescan be confusing.
>
>>t is your problem.  It
>>is not our problem (immigrants').      Sorry.  I was getting one of
>>the highest score in English at BC high school.
>>It is your problem.  Blame your own race before you start blaming
>>other races.  You are the one
>
>Replace [one] with [ones] when addressing an audience.
>
>>who says something and doesn't do
>>anything what's required while we don't
>
>Consider replacing [doesn't] with [does not] , [don't] with [do not]
>and [what's] with [what is].
>
>>ay anything and we do
>>whatever required.
>
>My suggestions and edits are as follows;
>
>The University of British Columbia, The University of Victoria and
>community colleges in BC, where most Asians Students reside, requires
>all students write an essay placement test for first year English
>(first year English is a graduation requirement).  The only exception
>to this prerequisite exam is extended to those students achieving an
>"A" in the British Columbia grade 12 English Provincial Exam.  Most
>Asian Students are predicted to pass the test, as I had.
>Unfortunately,  I have known of many failures among Canadian students.
>Increasing the English proficiency, etc.  will not serve to restrict
>Asians Student registrations. Rather, such qualifiers tend to increase
>the number of Asians Students registering in these universities.  For
>this, I am truly sorry!  If one wants to lay blame for the lack of
>proficiency in English in our universities, it must first be lain at
>the feet of the students who are educated in English in an English
>system, not at the feet of Asian Students.  I personally received one
>of the highest score in English at British Columbia high school.   The
>lack of English proficiency blame rests with you before others.  Your
>words lack substance while our substance lacks words.
>
>
>G. Whizz
>Dropout Class of 1969
>
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From: "Partner" <jbd@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: International Students
Date: 1998/10/11
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