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Re: International Students

#729
From: G. Whizz
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:00
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On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 13:07:21 -0700, "Partner" <jbd@hotmail.com> wrote:

>G. Whizz, your edit is worse than the original !

Gwhizz, I'm really sorry about that, let's have a looks see - shall
we?

>
>
>>The University of British Columbia, The University of Victoria and
>>community colleges in BC, where most Asians Students reside, requires
>>all students write an essay placement test for first year English
>
>require - not requires !

Hmmm, that does appear to be more correct.

>
>> The only exception
>>to this prerequisite exam is extended to those students achieving an
>>"A" in the British Columbia grade 12 English Provincial Exam.
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>"those" is redundant

Yes, right again thank you.

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>>Most Asian Students are predicted to pass the test, as I had.
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>"predicted" is the wrong word. perhaps expected.

Well a matter of choice I supose but, I'll give it to you this time
aswell.

>"as I had" is wrong.  "had" should patch a past perfect case in the first
>clausse, but there isn't one.

Hmmm?!

>"was" might be acceptable - as in "was
>expected", or "did" as in "I did pass".

Oops,  Okay then.

>enerally this is just a badly
>constructed sentence.
>
>> proficiency in English in our universities
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>Style. IN English AT our universities

Yes, that is better too.

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>> I personally received one
>>of the highest score in English at British Columbia high school.
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>SCORES !! It's plural.

Missed that one, thanks again.

>
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>>The lack of English proficiency blame rests with you before others.
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>Grammatically incorrect or at least VERY awkward.
>How about;
>The responsibility for low English proficiency lies .......

Awkward? Okay!

Thank you for the tips, I'll do my best to put them to use in the
furure.

G. Whizz


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>G. Whizz wrote in message <36202b65.44555908@news.intouch.bc.ca>...
>>On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 00:08:57 GMT, masa@radiotelephone.net.PAS_DE_SPAM
>>(Masataka Noda) wrote:
>>
>>>Michael H. wrote
>>>
>>>>One would think that most universities don't have their own entrance
>>>>exams, judging by the importance that many international students
>>>>(e.g.
>>>>the above poster) attach to the TOEFL.
>>>
>>>
>>>UBC, UVic etc.
>>
>>The abbreviation etc. should be preceded by a comma.
>>
>>>including community colleges) in BC where most of the
>>>Asians reside, will require you to write an essay placement test for
>>>first year English (first year English is a graduation requirement).
>>>There are no exceptions for this exam except for the students who
>>>achieve A in BC grade 12 English provincial exam.
>>>Most Asians would pass the test ,like I did,
>>
>>More correctly consider "[as] I did," rather than [like]
>>
>>>hile I saw many failures
>>
>>Consider deleting the space befor the punctuation mark.
>>
>>>among Canadian students.     Increasing the English proficiency etc.
>>
>>Again, the abbreviation etc. should be preceded by a comma.
>>
>>>will not kick out Asians... rather help to increase the number of
>>>Asians in the university.    Sorry !
>>
>>Consider deleting the space before the punctuation exclamation mark.
>>
>>>If you want to blame for lack
>>>of proficiency in English at university etc.,
>>
>>And once again,  the abbreviation etc. should be preceded by a comma.
>>In addition, consider revising.  Long sequences of prepositional
>>phrasescan be confusing.
>>
>>>t is your problem.  It
>>>is not our problem (immigrants').      Sorry.  I was getting one of
>>>the highest score in English at BC high school.
>>>It is your problem.  Blame your own race before you start blaming
>>>other races.  You are the one
>>
>>Replace [one] with [ones] when addressing an audience.
>>
>>>who says something and doesn't do
>>>anything what's required while we don't
>>
>>Consider replacing [doesn't] with [does not] , [don't] with [do not]
>>and [what's] with [what is].
>>
>>>ay anything and we do
>>>whatever required.
>>
>>My suggestions and edits are as follows;
>>
>>The University of British Columbia, The University of Victoria and
>>community colleges in BC, where most Asians Students reside, requires
>>all students write an essay placement test for first year English
>>(first year English is a graduation requirement).  The only exception
>>to this prerequisite exam is extended to those students achieving an
>>"A" in the British Columbia grade 12 English Provincial Exam.  Most
>>Asian Students are predicted to pass the test, as I had.
>>Unfortunately,  I have known of many failures among Canadian students.
>>Increasing the English proficiency, etc.  will not serve to restrict
>>Asians Student registrations. Rather, such qualifiers tend to increase
>>the number of Asians Students registering in these universities.  For
>>this, I am truly sorry!  If one wants to lay blame for the lack of
>>proficiency in English in our universities, it must first be lain at
>>the feet of the students who are educated in English in an English
>>system, not at the feet of Asian Students.  I personally received one
>>of the highest score in English at British Columbia high school.   The
>>lack of English proficiency blame rests with you before others.  Your
>>words lack substance while our substance lacks words.
>>
>>
>>G. Whizz
>>Dropout Class of 1969
>>
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Subject: Re: International Students
Date: 1998/10/12
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