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Re: International Students

#744
From: G. Whizz
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 00:00
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On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 00:08:57 GMT, masa@radiotelephone.net.PAS_DE_SPAM
(Masataka Noda) wrote:

>Michael H. wrote
>
>>One would think that most universities don't have their own entrance
>>exams, judging by the importance that many international students 
>>(e.g.
>>the above poster) attach to the TOEFL.
>
>
>UBC, UVic etc. 

The abbreviation etc. should be preceded by a comma.

>including community colleges) in BC where most of the
>Asians reside, will require you to write an essay placement test for
>first year English (first year English is a graduation requirement).
>There are no exceptions for this exam except for the students who
>achieve A in BC grade 12 English provincial exam.      
>Most Asians would pass the test ,like I did, 

More correctly consider "[as] I did," rather than [like]

>hile I saw many failures

Consider deleting the space befor the punctuation mark.

>among Canadian students.     Increasing the English proficiency etc.

Again, the abbreviation etc. should be preceded by a comma.

>will not kick out Asians... rather help to increase the number of
>Asians in the university.    Sorry !    

Consider deleting the space before the punctuation exclamation mark.

>If you want to blame for lack
>of proficiency in English at university etc., 

And once again,  the abbreviation etc. should be preceded by a comma.
In addition, consider revising.  Long sequences of prepositional
phrasescan be confusing.

>t is your problem.  It
>is not our problem (immigrants').      Sorry.  I was getting one of
>the highest score in English at BC high school.   
>It is your problem.  Blame your own race before you start blaming
>other races.  You are the one

Replace [one] with [ones] when addressing an audience.

>who says something and doesn't do
>anything what's required while we don't 

Consider replacing [doesn't] with [does not] , [don't] with [do not]
and [what's] with [what is].

>ay anything and we do
>whatever required.

My suggestions and edits are as follows;

The University of British Columbia, The University of Victoria and
community colleges in BC, where most Asians Students reside, requires
all students write an essay placement test for first year English
(first year English is a graduation requirement).  The only exception
to this prerequisite exam is extended to those students achieving an
"A" in the British Columbia grade 12 English Provincial Exam.  Most
Asian Students are predicted to pass the test, as I had.
Unfortunately,  I have known of many failures among Canadian students.
Increasing the English proficiency, etc.  will not serve to restrict
Asians Student registrations. Rather, such qualifiers tend to increase
the number of Asians Students registering in these universities.  For
this, I am truly sorry!  If one wants to lay blame for the lack of
proficiency in English in our universities, it must first be lain at
the feet of the students who are educated in English in an English
system, not at the feet of Asian Students.  I personally received one
of the highest score in English at British Columbia high school.   The
lack of English proficiency blame rests with you before others.  Your
words lack substance while our substance lacks words.


G. Whizz
Dropout Class of 1969
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Subject: Re: International Students
Date: 1998/10/11
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