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On Sat, 17 Jan 1998 05:34:07 GMT, admiral@ilos.net (Arthur D. Mira)
wrote:

>If the quotes attributed to the CNN executive, in the story by Lois
>Legge are correct and accurate then there's a bigger problem with
>clear thinking in Nova Scotia, than anything Barbara Amero could
>ever dream up and post.

Indeed, that some weak-sister like "Big Daddio" (aka John Jenkins sr)
could "rally the troops" in such a way as to have the exec of this
obviously laudable organization bow to his juvenile campaign certainly
scares the hell out of me. (Make no mistake, Chebucto has contributed
quite some experience to the promotion and development of the Internet
in Canada)

>To have a member of the executive of the Freenet say that the
>termination had nothing to do with content, but are as a result of the
>volume of complaints is hypocritical, vile and offensive.

No, I believe they _had_ to say this *if* they were going to take the
complaint(s) seriously. ForGodSakes lets NOT have them(ANY ISP) making
these type of decisions based on CONTENT. I sure don't want the
jenkins of the world deciding what *I* can post. If ISP's become
responsible for the CONTENT of their users
posts/emails/websites/irc/etc we're all fucked.

>The freenet has a published TOS/AUP for it's members. To cite the
>*EXCUSE OF EXPEDIENCY* that has been promulgated in the story,
>rather than an application of that same TOS/AUP is hypocritical.

NFP there.

>That an executive board would not act, or seemingly be aware
>that there was a problem until it accumulated 'hundreds' of complaints
>is an acknowledgement that they run an organization in blissful
>ignorance. Considering public money is involved to some degree,
>that is vile.

C'mon Art, the "hundreds of complaints" were contrived and solicited.
Amero has been posting for a couple of yrs, and none of this started
until jenkins decided to take it upon himself to be her best target.
They probably were NOT aware until Mr.Mailbox was filled with the
juvenile gyrations of Daddio and his crew.

>In dealing with the matter in the way that they have, the executive
>has acted as judge jury and executioner, without recourse, or appeal
>process. In a medium where free speech and freedom of expression is
>it's only saving grace, unilateral censorship is the greatest offense
>that can be foisted on the usenet community.

Precisely. It's "The Ultimate Abuse of Usenet Power"

These are the results:

Amero loses her account because ANOTHER net.whacko decides she and her
views are "not quite up to snuff" and convinces "hundreds" of others
that they should take action, ensure that her provider take notice of
their contrary views/incessant whining/how badly they are done by,
etc. 
And because they (CCN)do not have the manpower/energy/balls etc to
deal with it, they say "fuck this, she's gone". 

Score 1 for Daddio and his ilk.

>Perhaps it was a slow news day in Halifax, but the fact that it even
>made the local print media is somewhat strange. Albeit doing so
>allowed them to take another wack at another piece of sensationalized
>old news that had to do with that 'horrid' internet, and champion the
>cause of women everywhere. The two birds with one stone approach.

Notice that she was not banned for her "views", but that someone made
an issue with their displeasure thereof. 
And of course, the point missed entirely.

>From my experience and the look of the leader, I'd be inclined to say
>that it was Barbara that tried the ear of the media, and found a
>sympathic stringer to either flog a dead horse or champion her cause
>depending on your point of view.

No doubt. Played right into her bony little hands. 
That no excuse though. And without the "Daddios" of this world, she'd
still be ranting in obscurity and occupying more killfiles than David
Rhodes.

>The reporting appears to less than balanced or researched, as are
>most of the media stories dealing with sensationalism. Whenever I
>read or see this type of 'internet' tripe in the media, it evokes
>thoughts of the movie "This is Spinal Tap".

No way. That movie is waaaaay better.

>Oh well, maybe Barbara will be pissed off enough to vent her spleen,
>and her legal threats, on the CNN board for a while and leave the
>rest of the usenet community alone for a while.
>Art Mira

No chance.
New account in place I believe. T'was bullshit to begin with. 
The Internet is everywhere.

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