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asknet.sk.ca> <DK6pw3.5p4@freenet.carleton.ca> <Roger_Walker.7233@CUEHere.bohica.net> - ag414@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Colin R. Leech) writes:
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:>Rosco (Roger_Walker@CUEHere.bohica.net) writes:
:>> In article <DK6pw3.5p4@freenet.carleton.ca> Colin R. Leech 
:>> (ag414@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
:>>> Do you have any better ideas? If so, we'd love to hear them.
:>> 
:>> For dealing with the firearm issue:
:>> 
:>> The NFA has presented a licensing scheme (apparently when C-17 was brought
:>> into being by Kim), as well as during the C-68 garbage. It was fairly
:>> simple, requiring anyone who owned/used firearms (including police and
:>> military) to show proficiency in various categories (ie: Proficiency with a
:>> shotgun, for shotguns; proficiency with pistols, for pistols; etc.), as well
:>> as the usual background check. You don't have the particular license
:>> category, you don't own/use that type of firearm. There is no need to limit
:>> the number of firearms (of a particular category owned) or even have
:>> knowledge of how many are owned by an individual, since he has already been
:>> certified as proficient and responsible by the authorities.
:>
:>Uh huh. All you want to do iis make sure that somebody who owns a gun
:>knows how to use it. A lot of good this is going to do.

Well, the NFA scheme won't do any good at all if the ultimate objective is to 
disarm the civilian population, will it Colin.  If you are interested in 
reducing accidental injury caused by one of the myriad ways to misuse a gun 
through sheer ignorance, it will help.  Registration of a firearm, on the 
other hand, cannot stop any of the current misuses of a firearm.  All 
registration does is produce a piece of paper in a bureaucrat's office.  It's 
hard to see how this piece of paper will affect the way a gun is used.  What 
the piece of paper will accomplish is to make it easier to seize a gun - if 
it is registered.  So you seem to be more interested in schemes that will 
assist in civilian disarmament, and not at all interested in schemes that 
will affect how guns are used.

Registration of civilian firearms is a tinpot dictator's dream.  It increases 
the possibility of further control over the lives of the people the authority 
lover so disrespects - the civilian population in general.

:>> For dealing with criminals (after the fact):
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:>I'll stop it right there. There may be problems with our justice system in
:>terms of precedures and sentencing. But that's a totally different issue.
:>(Feel free to start a separate thread in can.legal if you wish.)

This is inconsistent with an objective of reducing death and injury by 
firearms.  Previously convicted criminals are highly likely to violently 
misuse firearms compared to the population in general.  Dealing with them 
more effectively is a clear way to help the abuse problem.  On the other 
hand, if your objective is to disarm the civilian population, dealing with 
criminals will be of no interest to you.  You just want the sheep pacified.

:>> For dealing with crime (before the fact):
:>> 
:>> Research the causes of crime (poverty, drug abuse, marital strife, etc.) and
:>> institute programs to educate people and deal with the root causes.
:>
:>Ditto.

Ditto.  The criminal abuse of firearms _is_ the real problem, but dealing 
with it has no bearing on civilian disarmament, does it.  What you post here 
reveals that you are either a poor thinker or that you are actually 
presenting a rationalization of registration (for public consumption) because 
you can't post the real and only logical reason you can have for wanting 
registration.  That reason is that you want to disarm the civilian 
population.  I choose to give you the benefit of the doubt.  You are a 
capapble thinker with an ulterior motive.


:>Now, how about some useful suggestions that deal directly with the issues
:>of dangerous lethal weapons being allowed among us?

Hmm, perhaps your motive isn't all that hidden after all.  Let's see, how 
could we help you accomplish it.  We could have the Canadian military forces 
do a house to house search, seizing all the weapons found.  A beneficial side 
effect of this would be the great training it would provide for the 
soldiers.  I can imagine there would be some local areas of resistance.  Thus 
the soldiers would get experience in everything from searching the homes of 
passive civilians to live fire experience in putting down small rebellions.

I'll bet your heart just pounds with the thought of the things that could be 
accomplished to get this undisciplined nation in order. :D

                        Tom Cohoe.