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Article #953Re: Bullet in the radio
From: Garry B. Dormody
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 00:00
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 00:00
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Colin R. Leech <ag414@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote:
> Garry B. Dormody (gdormody@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca) writes:
> > Are you suggesting that some lunatic is going to sit down and
> > say to himself,"Hmmm, I have this rifle and I have this urge to get up
> > in the tower and wait for a busload of kids to arrive at school. Jeez,
> > I'd better register this so the authorities can stop me before I start
> > to act _really_ irresponsibly".
>
> A strawman argument that isn't even worth responding to. It's clearly
> ludicrous.
It is ludicrous. Unfortunately it is the basis of what Rock et
al have been peddling over the last year. It is also what you seem to
subscribe to.
>
> > Like a lot of uninformed people you sound like you have this
> > idea that registration will basically clean up the criminlnal element
> > and force them to inform the police that they have guns and might use
> > them in a _really_ irresponsible manner. Not this year!
>
> The more important part of this is the registration of *new* guns, since
> it is unrealistic to expect that every gun stored in some closet or dusty
> attic will be registered.
Al Rock once ststed that guns in the homes were the main
problem. Why would he not expect these to be registered.
>The authorities obviously have no way of even
> knowing of the existance of these guns. But it is a lot easier to monitor
> the movements of new weapons from their point of manufacture onwards.
The legal ones, yes. Back to the main point, WHAT DOES THE BILL
DO AGAINST THE ILLEGAL ONES ? You've stated it yourself that the bill
will do a good job in keeping the legal guns in check. The funny part is
I don't see why you feel threatened by the legal guns. You seem to be
more worried about my target hnd hunting firearms than by the ones
bought on the black market for criminal use. That seems to back up my
"strawman argument " quite well.
>
> If everybody had to show a licence for the proper size of gun in order to
> buy ammunition for it, even the illegal guns would be much harder to use.
Are you suggesting that a criminal who could easily get his
hands on illegal guns would have a hard time getting his hands on
illegal ammunition? In a rough sense --->reloader + primers + lead +
powder + brass = ammunition, and that's the legal stuff!
If you don't want to make it you find someone who can legally
buy it and then get it from them. Maybe al et al will want you to keep a
log of what you shot and where to keep this in check. Your arguments
clearly show the futility of C-68 in that it "looks" like something is
being done but, in reality, by making the law abiding gun owner out to
be the criminal you are running away from something that isn't even
after you.
dorm
--
Will there be a separate line for * gdormody@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca
criminals to register their firearms * P.O. Box 51, Portugal Cove
or will we all be treated the same as * Newfoundland, Canada, A0A 3K0
we are now ? * (709) 579-7191 (fax) 895-1223
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