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Article #973Re: Allan Rock sold you out. was: Illegal Guns
From: Rosco
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 00:00
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 1995 00:00
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In article <DJtt7z.Lt6@freenet.carleton.ca> Colin R. Leech
(ag414@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> > It is amazing how people can't see that there are a variety of reasons for
> > registering <whatever>:
> Yes, I find it truly amazing that people like you can feel so violently
> opposed to such a simple concept.
What I am opposed to is the fact that too much legislation is an
infringement on what I do or can do, without receiving any benefit for that
infringement. Contrary to your suggestion, I am neither violent, nor am I
opposed to the concept of having a reason for registration. However, the
reason should not restrict the actions of responsible people without some
real benefit. C-68 does not qualify by any stretch of the imagination.
> > yes, we do believe that an APPROPRIATE licensing system for firearms
> > owners/users is a good idea, and has been proposed many times, and
> > rejected).
> >
> > Firearms are registered to make confiscation easier. Registrants receive
> > no benefit from it. The public receives no benefit from it.
> The public receives the benefit of having better knowledge and control
> over lethal weapons that are in circulation.
What you have stated is not a benefit, but a feature. Features abound, but
not benefits. For example, C-68 allows higher maximum sentences for use of
firearms in crime (feature), but does not enforce any sentencing guidelines,
any guidelines for the laying of charges, nor any better minimum sentencing
guidelines (also features, but features which would have the benefit of
keeping criminals off the street much longer, during which time they could
not be committing crimes).
> To me, that is a *much* more
> important benefit than bein able to trace somebody who doesn't comply with
> poop&scoop.
You have amply demonstrated that you think it is much more important to
infringe on those who are responsible.
> > This is known as "totalitarian."
> Bullshit hyperbole.
- From the Chambers Dictionary:
totalitarian: adj, of, relating to, or characteristic of, a form of
government that includes control of everything under one authority, and
allows no opposition.
That accurately describes Rock's control over responsible firearms owners
and their property (not just firearms), should they cooperate with the
regulations contained within C-68, and the expanded powers of Orders in
Council which allow Rock to change anything on a whim, without Parliamentary
review.
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SysOp, CUE Here BBS (403) 465-7715
Roger_Walker@CUEHere.bohica.net
Roger_Walker@CUEHere.Edmonton.AB.CA
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