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hayes@ug.cs.dal.ca (Kevin B. Hayes) wrote:

>However, do you think you should be able to stockpile weapons with no one
>knowing about it? For goodness sake, our society has no use for guns outside
>of law enforcement. 

Sport shooting, hunting, collecting...these are LEGITIMATE uses of
firearms.

>Some might believe so for hunting purposes - but rules
>out uzi's, pistols, semiautomatics, etc.

Why are semi-automatics and pistols ruled out?  The only reason
handguns aren't used for hunting is because the law says so.  For
close-range hunting, they're perfectly capable for medium-sized game.
Semi-automatic rifles are useful for dangerous prey (ie: boar
hunting).  Semi-auto shotguns are useful for bird hunting.  You do
know, don't you, that there is a difference between a semi-automatic
and an automatic firearm?


>You claim you are a responsible gun owner, so what is wrong with registering 
>your gun? What freedom is being taken away from you? The freedom to go out and
>shoot somebody on a whim with no one able to track you down is about it.

Take the time to read the past posts for a while before asking the
same question which has been asked countless times.  The answer
remains the same: many registered firearms have become prohibited (ie:
illegal).  Previously, the only registered firearms were of the
restricted category but now ALL firearms will be registered.  Because
the government can declare ANY firearms prohibited through a simple
order-in-council, ALL firearms are in danger of confiscation without
compensation.  The list of recently prohibited firearms numbers in the
hundreds and this translates to thousands of firearms.

By the way, you're being extremely naive if you think that a
registration system is going to prevent firearms crimes.  The police
don't even use the existing handgun registration system to solve
crimes.  The much more expensive rifle & shotgun registration system
isn't going to be any more efficient or useful and will tie hundreds
more police officers to their desks.

>Any human being has the potential to quickly and easily go insane and/or
>cause a lot of harm with a gun - more easily than with a knife, bomb, gasoline,
>whatever. And don't you think there should be a system to track down suspects 
>who are gun owners? (Note I didn't say gun owners, I said SUSPECTS who are 
>gun owners)

Right...how many cases do you know of.  Shit happens every single day
and you're obsessing on the exceedingly rare and bizarre cases.  Why
don't you support a move to raise the minimum legal driving age to 21.
That would save a hell of a lot more lives.  After all, it's not
NECESSARY for young people to drive an automobile.  For the small
percentage that do require a vehicle (ie: live in the rural areas),
they could apply for a special permit.

>: |> I would prefer to be a serf or peasant who doesn't have to worry about some
>: |> idiot grabbing a gun and perforating me with bullets.

>: If you worry about such things, then it is you who is the idiot.

>There are many people who do worry about such things - I don't know what kind
>of fantasy land you live in, but go take a walk in South Central LA, or
>a ghettos in New York, Detroit, Philadelphia, or other cities. That danger is
>very real to many people. If you don't agree, you are kidding yourself.

Har har har.  If you think you'd be able to go through those areas
without fear of injury if they didn't have guns, you're kidding
yourself.  You're also being extremely naive if you think that
registration or banning of firearms will stop them from getting guns.
Hell, the war on drugs hasn't phased them a bit.

...lars