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In article <1992Nov18.220030.86964@watson.ibm.com>, margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis) writes:
|> >|> jlharris@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHNATHAN LEWIS HARRIS) writes:
|> >|> >  [What he wrote is further down]
|> >
|> >|> In a purely historical sense, the Bible is rightly grouped with other
|> >|> ancient and modern religious texts.  What's wrong with this?  Surely you
|> >|> don't need some sort of secular approval for the Bible!  Either you believe
|> >|> or you don't...passing a law 'approving' or 'sanctioning' the Bible doesn't
|> >|> do one whit to increase or decrease the level of truth contained therein,
|> >|> nor should it affect ones view of that truth.
|> >
|> >No, but I amn trying to get some credibility for it. And trying to make it not
|> >just another old book.
|> 
|> Why do you want to make it more than it is?

I'm not, it it what you make of it, to me it is sacred to and atheist, it is
kindle for the fireplace.

|> 
|> >There are no laws against having sex, and there should not be any, there
|> 
|> (Actually, there are; I agree that there *shouldn't* be any laws against
|> consensual sex.)
|> 
|> >SHOULD be laws prohibiting the ending of a life if precautions are not taken
|> >while having sex.
|> 
|> And if precautions *are* taken, but they fail?  Would abortion then be
|> OK according to you, or is this just a red herring?

Like I said before, if you are reponsible enough to have sex, you have to deal 
with the consequences.

|> 
|> >|> >Let's see, can't have prayer in public schools (my family=me),
|> >
|> >|> You can pray all you want.  Even aloud.  No official from the school can
|> >|> lead a prayer.  How exactly does that violate your rights?  You can still
|> >|> pray!  And, by the way, what of Jesus command that you should go and pray
|> >|> in private to God, who is in private, and not stand in public like the
|> >|> hypocrites???  Hmm?
|> >
|> >OK, good point, I may have gotten carried away, and exagerated, even to myself,
|> >but yes praying in public is prohibited, even if led by a student taking the
|> >place of a leader.
|> 
|> Praying in public is prohibited, or *organized* praying?

Usually just organized, but some places open or public, even if just one
or two students is not allowed.

|> 
|> >Yes prayer is  private thing most of the time, but sometimes
|> >public prayer is neccessary.
|> 
|> I'd like to see you prove that *praying* is ever necessary, much less
|> *public* praying.

Praying is something you have to do if you are in any religion, it is your
own decision to prove that prayer is necessary, I can't prove it to you unless
you are a christian trying to understand its importance.
-Johnathan