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9 total messages Started by norman miller Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:04
Knishes and the Holy Grail
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Author: norman miller
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:04
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Dearly beloved noshers of all creeds and colors:
In the words of the immortal Dante, forget it.

Boston is a perfectly nice place, a lot more pleasant
than it was when I lived there in 1946, but in one
respect it's unchanged: Jewish baked goods and deli
ought not be discussed in front of children.

As the one who hopefully asked for bagel recommendations,
I tell you sadly that there are no bagels in Boston, only
crusty kleenex.  You want pumpernickel?  You have to ask
for "dark rye" and what you get isn't worth asking for.
Years ago I wandered into a Brookline grocery and heard
a young woman ask (I swear this is true) for "sliced
tchayle".  And last week at Boston Daily Bread I was
given a taste of..wholewheat challa.

I ask you.

Ditto "delicatessens".  The Stage, for god's sake, doesn't even
offer barley soup.  And Rubin's kishke?  Don't ask.

What's worse is that if somebody with a rich poppa tried
b'shem shomayim (in the name of Heaven) to open a real
establishment, s/he'd go broke.  Boston!

What to do?  My solution is: care packages from Zabar's (bread,
coffee, etc.) and Murray's (for fish).  And of course H&H
(1-800-NY BAGELS) for the real stuff.

So what's good in Laotian cooking?

Norman Miller
Re: Knishes and the Holy Grail
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Author: Michael Bergman
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:53
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nmiller@starbase.trincoll.edu (norman miller) writes:

>Dearly beloved noshers of all creeds and colors:
>In the words of the immortal Dante, forget it.
It's not that bad -- close, but not quite.
>Boston is a perfectly nice place, a lot more pleasant

Bagels:  Newton Center has a nice bagel place.  And I grew up
eating at H&H in NYC, so I think I know whereof I speak.  Unfortunately, what 
I don't know is the name of the place.  It's right in Newton Ctr,
 (accessible by green line)  and is a bagel place, not a bakery (_don't_
go to the bakery).

I have also heard that there is a decent bagel place in brookline, maybe two.

Boston proper?  Forget it.

There is a good place in Pittsburgh, and I'm told that there's a good one
in Potsdam, NY.

>Ditto "delicatessens".  The Stage, for god's sake, doesn't even
>offer barley soup.  And Rubin's kishke?  Don't ask.

The S&S (es, es) in Inman Square, Cambridge (somerville? near the line)
isn't bad.  They have decent knishes, though not great ones.

>What to do?  My solution is: care packages from Zabar's (bread,
>coffee, etc.) and Murray's (for fish).  And of course H&H
>(1-800-NY BAGELS) for the real stuff.

Don't forget the knishes from Zabars!

>So what's good in Laotian cooking?

There's a nice Thai/Laotian place in Waltham, called Bangkok flavor.  Not
_special_, just nice.  If you're in waltham or newton, its a good place to go.

--mike bergman





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--Mike Bergman			Voice:	(617) 271-0230
Re: Knishes and the Holy Grail
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Author: Barry Margolin
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 20:35
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Surprisingly enough, Arlington turns out to be a reasonable place to get a
few Jewish items.

You can get real challah at Quebrada, next to the Capitol Theatre on Mass
Ave in E. Arlington.  And Bagels By US imports their bagels from a NYC
bakery (it might be H&H, I don't remember).
-- 
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

barmar@think.com          {uunet,harvard}!think!barmar
Re: Knishes and the Holy Grail
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Author: norman miller
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 23:10
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In article <C19zGH.BD4@world.std.com> augment@world.std.com (Michael Bergman) wr
ites:

>Bagels:  Newton Center has a nice bagel place.  And I grew up
>eating at H&H in NYC, so I think I know whereof I speak.  Unfortunately, what
>I don't know is the name of the place.  It's right in Newton Ctr,
> (accessible by green line)  and is a bagel place, not a bakery (_don't_
>go to the bakery).

Let us know the name, Mike, and I'll try it even if it _is_ against
my religion to patronize a "bagel place".  Probably got a cutesy menu
with New Age combinations that'll bring on dyspepsia if not a coronary.
But for you I'll go once.  One must learn to be brave in this new world.

>--mike bergman

Norman
Re: Knishes and the Holy Grail
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Author: Jerry Natowitz
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 16:02
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In article <1993Jan23.231006.15146@starbase.trincoll.edu> nmiller@starbase.trincoll.edu (norman miller) writes:
>In article <C19zGH.BD4@world.std.com> augment@world.std.com (Michael Bergman) wr
>ites:
>
>>Bagels:  Newton Center has a nice bagel place.  And I grew up
>>eating at H&H in NYC, so I think I know whereof I speak.  Unfortunately, what
>>I don't know is the name of the place.  It's right in Newton Ctr,
>> (accessible by green line)  and is a bagel place, not a bakery (_don't_
>>go to the bakery).
>
>Let us know the name, Mike, and I'll try it even if it _is_ against
>my religion to patronize a "bagel place".  Probably got a cutesy menu
>with New Age combinations that'll bring on dyspepsia if not a coronary.
>But for you I'll go once.  One must learn to be brave in this new world.
>
>>--mike bergman
>
>Norman
>
>

I believe he speaks of Rosenfeld's.  They sell blueberry bagels, need I
say more?

Jerry (still looking for delicious knishes) Natowitz

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Re: Knishes and the Holy Grail
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Author: Ed Schwalenberg
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 18:42
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In article <1jsa7dINN3cu@early-bird.think.com> barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin) writes:
  Surprisingly enough, Arlington turns out to be a reasonable place to get a
  few Jewish items.

  You can get real challah at Quebrada, next to the Capitol Theatre on Mass
  Ave in E. Arlington.

Seconded.  Quebrada is wonderful.  French toast made from their challah is
heavenly.

  And Bagels By US imports their bagels from a NYC
  bakery (it might be H&H, I don't remember).

I went there once, and got cardboard toruses.  I think it might have to
do with keeping the bagels in open bins.

Finagle-a-bagel in Fanueil Hall has good bagels, which they redistribute to
some Star Markets, Belmont and Mt. Auburn being two.  They often sell out.
Challah/tsoureki
#636
Author: Stavros Macrakis
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 11:20
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In article <1jsa7dINN3cu@early-bird.think.com> barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin) writes:

   ... Arlington turns out to be a reasonable place to get a few
   Jewish items.  You can get real challah at Quebrada...

Isn't challah the same thing as tsoureki (Greek) or choreg (Armenian)?
That is, a somewhat sweet braided egg-bread?  It is traditional for
Orthodox Easter (with a red-dyed egg baked into the top).

If so, you can get it (year-round) at all the Armenian bakeries on Mt.
Auburn Street in Watertown or Eastern Lamejun Bakeries on Belmont
Street in Belmont.  J. Bildners (Belmont Center, Brookline, Boston)
also carries challah/tsoureki.

	-s
Re: Knishes and the Holy Grail
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Author: Cheryl R. Madson
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:41
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re: H&H bagels

I've had them once, in some "bakery/deli in Hollis, NH. I was very
unimpressed; they were extremely dry, like cardboard. It *is* possible
that this place didn't know how to store bagels. I just assumed that 
H&H had an excellent marketing campaign and not enough goods behind their
hype. I don't trust any place that uses testimonials from BIG NAMES IN
HOLLYWOOD.
Re: Knishes and the Holy Grail
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Author: norman miller
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:37
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In article <C1H2Ht.2G6@wang.com> cmadson@wang.com (Cheryl R. Madson) writes:
>re: H&H bagels
>
>I've had them once, in some "bakery/deli in Hollis, NH. I was very
>unimpressed; they were extremely dry, like cardboard. It *is* possible
>that this place didn't know how to store bagels. I just assumed that
>H&H had an excellent marketing campaign and not enough goods behind their
>hype. I don't trust any place that uses testimonials from BIG NAMES IN
>HOLLYWOOD.

They have a marketing campaign?  Testimonials?  I wish you han't told us.

Shows what happens when you stay glued on PBS.

nm
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