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In ba.general Al Smith <invalid@address.com> wrote:
>>>>     As for the "right of return," most Palestinians left the area
>>>>>> set aside by the UN partition for Israel either voluntarily or after
>>>>>> the invading Arab armies told them that anybody found there would be
>>>>>> killed.  They expected to return to a Jew-free area after the Arabs
>>>>>> conquered, but--surprise--the Arabs lost.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> I keep reading this bullshit over and over. If the Arabs owned the 
>>>> land, and if they left it voluntarily, they've got a right to come 
>>>> back to it. Makes no difference why they left ... it's their 
>>>> fucking land!
>> 
>> 
>>      Do your ancestors have the right to whatever they left in
>> Ireland or England or France or wherever they came from?  Of course
>> not.  Basically the Arabs started a war and lost, and must suffer
>> the consequences.  The Arabs who stayed--and there are many
>> thousands--and I believe those who returned immediately after the
>> 1948 war have full citizenship and full property rights.
>> 


> Specious argument. Well, what else is new? -- all the arguments of 
> the Zionists are specious. They have to be, since they are arguing 
> against truth and justice.

     In other words, you have to rebuttal so you go for the
"ad hominem"--it's  Zionist argument so it's specious.

> If the Arabs stepped out to avoid getting killed in a war they 
> knew was about to begin, they should have been allowed to return 
> to their own land, and their own houses, after the fighting 
> stopped. There's no way to argue otherwise. Blow as much smoke as 
> you want. Makes no difference to the truth.

     Many were.  Others decided to "wait it out."  Their brother
Arabs decided they made better propaganda in squalid refugee camps
than if they were peacefully resettled in other Arab countries, as
the hundreds of thousands of Jews expelled from Arab/Muslim 
countries were peacefully resettled in Israel.  And no law,
tradition, or anything other than your twisted sense of "ethics"
says that the Arabs "should have been allowed to return," 
especially given the ongoing state of war between Israel and the
neighboring Arab countries.
     Do you shed tears for those Jews who were expelled from Egypt,
Iran, Syria, Iraq, Algeria, Morocco, etc.?  Are you pressuring the
Arab/Muslim countries to allow them to return and restore their
confiscated homes and other property?
     And are you ready to turn your home over to the Indian tribe
that owned the land before the European immigrants (who certainly
were not invited by the Indians to come to America) expelled them?