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In ba.general Disgruntled Customer <nowhere@nowhow.com> wrote:
> Merlin Dorfman <dorfman@green.rahul.net> enscribed:

>>      Israel and the US, and Europe, and Australia, and Japan, and
>> just about everybody except the Arabs, are not actively trying to
>> overthrow the elected government, but are refusing to subsidize it
>> (which frankly amounts to the same thing) because, in violation of
>> the UN charter and international law, it is sworn to the overthrow
>> of a neighbor.  How ironic that you accuse the US and Israel of

> Are you saying a government X which has publicly dedicated itself to the overthrow of another government Y while not in a state of war, that government X should rightfully be subject to international sanctions to remove it from power or force it to changes its policies?

     The US and Israel (and the EU and Australia and Japan and etc.
etc. etc.) are not trying to overthrow the Palestinian government,
much less to "erase it from the map" in the words of Ahmedinijad,
but merely to encourage it to change its policy, specifically its
statement that Israel has no right to exist and the entire area
should be under Palestinian control.
     If you are asking whether I agree that the US should not have
invaded Iraq and should not be conducting an embargo against Cuba
with the objective of "regime change," yes, I agree with those
statements.
     However I'm not clear if you are saying it would be OK to
try to overthrow another government or abolish another country as
long as you took the step of declaring war first.  That seems to
be what you are saying.