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Merlin Dorfman <dorfman@green.rahul.net> enscribed:
> In ba.general Disgruntled Customer <nowhere@nowhow.com> wrote:
> > Merlin Dorfman <dorfman@green.rahul.net> enscribed:
> 
> >>      Israel and the US, and Europe, and Australia, and Japan, and
> >> just about everybody except the Arabs, are not actively trying to
> >> overthrow the elected government, but are refusing to subsidize it
> >> (which frankly amounts to the same thing) because, in violation of
> >> the UN charter and international law, it is sworn to the overthrow
> >> of a neighbor.  How ironic that you accuse the US and Israel of
> 
> > Are you saying a government X which has publicly dedicated itself to the overthrow of another government Y while not in a state of war, that government X should rightfully be subject to international sanctions to remove it from power or force it to changes its policies?
> 
>      The US and Israel (and the EU and Australia and Japan and etc.
> etc. etc.) are not trying to overthrow the Palestinian government,
> much less to "erase it from the map" in the words of Ahmedinijad,
> but merely to encourage it to change its policy, specifically its
> statement that Israel has no right to exist and the entire area
> should be under Palestinian control.
>      If you are asking whether I agree that the US should not have
> invaded Iraq and should not be conducting an embargo against Cuba
> with the objective of "regime change," yes, I agree with those
> statements.
>      However I'm not clear if you are saying it would be OK to
> try to overthrow another government or abolish another country as
> long as you took the step of declaring war first.  That seems to
> be what you are saying.
> 
> 
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