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davehs@ix.netcom.com (David Hutchings) wrote:

>On Mon, 09 Sep 1996 00:30:46 GMT, rex@intr.net (Rex) wrote:
>
>>If we had won Vietnam, our freedom would now be more solidified???  I
>>really don't agree.  The Vietnamese haven't comtemplated a take over
>>of the US that I know of.
>
>No but the Chinese and Rusians who were backing them sure where.

Do you offer proof beyond your empty assertion?

>>As for serving our country.  Most people work hard,  for free until
>>mid May, just to pay their federal taxes.  Some of us (in Washington
>>DC), do not even have congressional representation to show for it.
>
>You know that is not what i was talking about, you can not buy freedom
>you do have some patriotic duties to perform.  As for your thing with
>Washington DC, I have a very simple solution, MOVE to either Maryland
>or Virginia.

Ah, typical. Don't like the politics where you are, move. Like stinking swamp
mud, that little chestnut makes me want to hurl (the speaker).

>>Fighting a political nonesense war, is not service to your country -
>>it is service to your elected officials, who should be serving you.
>
>And who made it a political nonsense war?  People like you who
>disagreed with the war.  

No, it was bullshit to begin with. You are just scapegoating, trying to protect
your pride and vanity in your country.

>They made such a noise that the politicians were scared.

Of what?

Oh, yea, getting re-elected.

>And furthermore, there is a lot of other services one
>can perform that does not have to do with the military.

In this context, I do not follow your meaning.

>>And when you found out how the government went about the "war", it
>>probably made you suffer more.  I am suprised that you are not
>>downright pissed.

>No I was pissed off at the protesters not the government.  What really
>makes you feel good is when you come back from a war and have the
>people you are fighting for through shit on you and call you a baby
>killer.  That is a lot of fun.

This was wrong of them. Their anger should have been directed at the
politicians.

But as usual, their shit don't stink.

>>It doesn't take themselves long to vote themselves a raise, and to
>>vote to exempt themselves from the laws they impose on the public.  I
>>think the swiftness depends on who will benefit from the act.
>
>How else can they get themselves a raise?  When was the last time you
>had a raise?  Granted they make way too much money but!

But what? Simple rule change - as long as they remain, their salary and perks
remain at or below the level they were when elected.

Once again, it'll never happen.

>>They would laugh at me too.  But, since I have no elected
>>representatives (Washington DC),  what's the point?
>>
>>What other "democratic" or "free" country in this world, supports
>>taxation without representation for the residents of their capital?
>>
>>Why, if another country did this, the US would decry it as tyranny,
>>and commit our military to rectify the situation.  The irony is rarely
>>realized, though.
>
>Come on!  All you have to do is move!  It would not be that much of a
>hardship.  Maryland and Virginia are not that much further from any
>job you might have.

One word: Canada.

>>Well, it isn't Bush's war anymore.  Bush isn't the president.  Clinton
>>is pursuing the issue now.  Notice the timing.  Even the majority of
>>our allies realize the bullshit reasons and timing behind this thing,
>>and they want nothing to do with it.
>
>That doesn't make any sense to me.  Our alies are only thinking of one
>thing and that is the things that they can sell to Iraq and that is
>all!

One more vacant assertion. Keep your day job.

>>Actually, I don't even think that it is a "war" per se.  Isn't it a
>>"military action", like Vietnam?
>
>Define for me military action!

The military in action, shooting weapons, breaking things and killing people. 

This is a difficult conception?

Jack