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In <DAKvLK.F1B@mv.mv.com> bnb@artichoke.curtech.mv.com (Brian Ballard) writes:


>But, it's true.... Nowadays, people easily interchange "right-wing" and
>"conservative" or "left-wing" and "liberal", as though they meant the same
>thing.  They don't.

And none of them have anything to do with where those loyal to the
king were assigned to sit in parliments vs. those in opposition
to the absolute rule of the monarchy.  And in fact if one party
was "liberal" in it's thinking 150 years ago, then it is really
a shame to call that same philosophy "conservative" 150 years
later just because they don't want to progress, but revert back
to a fantasy of the '50's that never existed outside the movies.
Man these word things get so hard, wish they had a book where
I could actually look up meanings.

>If anything, the Nazi's were extreme left-wing socialists *and* extreme
>social conservatives.  "Socialist" and "social" do not mean the same thing
>in this sentence.  Granted, this is Politics 101-type stuff, but alot of
>folks out there *really* don't know the difference!

Yeah, they were really social amongst each other, but they killed
all labor union leaders... go figger huh?  Yeah they were extreme
left wing socialists that's why the the consortium that owned 95% 
of Germany's capital wealth financed them to keep those gosh durned
conservative right wing communists from taxing capital monopolies.
Yeah...I heard all about that in PS101 from my professor
Heather Lock...ah..Morgan Fairchild, yeah@ that's the ticket

>It is also possible to be politically right-wing and socially liberal.
>Folks that are might be called Libertarians :)

Or to completely ignore all realities, definitions, history, and
just put together the right mix of words that the majority of 
uneducated desperate fools wish would just go away and put them
all in one seemingly sensible sentence to give the masses what they
want and call that speaker in the old greek word, a demagogue.  Oops
that would mean the speaker knew he was full of... nevermind.

>It's all too easy to stereotype...

And obviously altogether too easy to just make up your own
daffynitions as you go.

Naziism can only be understood as an ecclectic conglomorate of disparate 
ideas, none of which were digested or understood.  That is how Socialism 
in it's nature anti-nation-state could be combined with Nationalism, it's
total opposite, by simple redefining Socialism to mean Discipline.
	Prof W. Fruehwald. Lectures on Lit of Nazi Era. Munich '75


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