🚀 go-pugleaf

feenix@ipgeek.com wrote:
> 
> lrogers@boris.webo.dg.com (Larry Rogers) wrote:
> 
> >>And what forms of birth control are 100% effective for the man?
> 
> >    Word> Most likely those used correctly, consistently, and in
> >    Word> coordination with similar by the woman ...
> 
> >Agreed.  Both have fairly effective forms of BC.  But none are 100%
> >effective.
> 
> >>If you refer to a vasectomy, women can have a 100% effective
> >>operation as well, and even vasectomies, although rare, sometimes
> >>fail.
> 
> >    Word> The operation for women is much more involved.
> 
> Involved, complicated, expensive . . .
> 
> >>Of all available birth control methods other than ones involving
> >>medical operations, the birth control pill for WOMEN remains the most
> >>effective.
> 
> >    Word> It is quite dangerous and harmful to some of them, as well
> >    Word> as not infallible.
> 
> >It is the most effective form.  Harmful to some, yes; but studies have
> >shown it helpful to others.
> 
> Harmful to many.  Very harmful to some ... anyone with thrombosis,
> migraines.  And condoms have never hurt anyone.  Unless there's some
> putz somewhere who choked on one.
> 
> >In sex there is not oneself, there is two selves.  Both are
> >responsible.  Condoms are a good idea anyway because of the spread of
> >disease, but if the condom breaks or what have you, then what?  Is the
> >woman then responsible because the guy gave it a good try?  A woman
> >can carry a condom with her or make the guy happy in a number of
> >alternative ways.  If she is unsure, offering one of these methods to
> >the man will most likely not upset him.
> 
> I don't know that I want to "make the guy happy" if he's one who wants
> to claim no responsibility should anything happen, that he's the type
> to hit and run . . . .   If he has a heart attack during sex, do I owe
> him CPR?  or is he completely responsible for his choice?

Owe him CPR? Did you really mean that? Do you only do what you owed? At
any point in time, big or small circumstances? If I ever see you on the
highway with a flat tire, should I just say, well I don't owe you
anything, so goodbye and good luck? If I see some guy beating you to a
pulp, should I just say, sorry, I don't owe you? I hope to shout that if
you see someone dying of a heart attack, even if he is responsible for
his own choices just as YOU are, you"ll at least call an ambulance! Or
would you say, sorry, you're responsible for your heart attack. I don't
owe you even a prayer, so just go ahead and die.
 What you said about taking no responsibility also applies to the woman,
if it applies to the man. If a woman is only looking out for her own
interests, the kind to not take protective measures (HER share of
responsibility), and then go after everything she can get her hands on,
then I guess the guy shouldn't oblige her, either.