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Re: Sexual Responsibility Doesn't Hand Off

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From: feenix
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 00:00
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lrogers@boris.webo.dg.com (Larry Rogers) wrote:


>>And what forms of birth control are 100% effective for the man?

>    Word> Most likely those used correctly, consistently, and in
>    Word> coordination with similar by the woman ...

>Agreed.  Both have fairly effective forms of BC.  But none are 100%
>effective.

>>If you refer to a vasectomy, women can have a 100% effective
>>operation as well, and even vasectomies, although rare, sometimes
>>fail.

>    Word> The operation for women is much more involved.

Involved, complicated, expensive . . . 


>>Of all available birth control methods other than ones involving
>>medical operations, the birth control pill for WOMEN remains the most
>>effective.

>    Word> It is quite dangerous and harmful to some of them, as well
>    Word> as not infallible.

>It is the most effective form.  Harmful to some, yes; but studies have
>shown it helpful to others.

Harmful to many.  Very harmful to some ... anyone with thrombosis,
migraines.  And condoms have never hurt anyone.  Unless there's some
putz somewhere who choked on one.

>In sex there is not oneself, there is two selves.  Both are
>responsible.  Condoms are a good idea anyway because of the spread of
>disease, but if the condom breaks or what have you, then what?  Is the
>woman then responsible because the guy gave it a good try?  A woman
>can carry a condom with her or make the guy happy in a number of
>alternative ways.  If she is unsure, offering one of these methods to
>the man will most likely not upset him.

I don't know that I want to "make the guy happy" if he's one who wants
to claim no responsibility should anything happen, that he's the type
to hit and run . . . .   If he has a heart attack during sex, do I owe
him CPR?  or is he completely responsible for his choice?
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From: feenix@ipgeek.com
Subject: Re: Sexual Responsibility Doesn't Hand Off
Date: 1996/09/09
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