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In co.general a_jabberwock@hotmail.com wrote:
->> You could ask him what to do about the starving masses, but he'd probably
->> tell you to let them eat cake.

->No, I would not, but you would probably say kill them.

Nah, they've attained autonomy.  Too late.

->Actually, I have fed and clothed poor worldwide through donations to
->religious charities, what have you done?

I too have made various contributions.  I'm not as certain as you are
that it actually ended up feeding or clothing anyone.

That's why I prefer to contribute to local causes.  In theory,
I get to see what my money buys.

->The simple fact is that there is
->adequate food, but inadequate delivery, due to political and economic
->conditions in third world countries.

Yup.  Corruption, waste, and spoilage account for a lot of food.

->The other fact is that nothing you do will change it much.

No argument here.

->If you could raise them up from their poverty, educate
->and develop them, the problems might go away, but I don't know a way to do
->that, especially given the goverments in the third world countries. The fact
->is they were starving, poor, and uneducated a hundred years ago, just as they
->are today, and halving their population or doubling it is not going to change
->that. Feed them and you create more poverty down the line, don't feed them
->and the population levels at a lower level, but conditions do not change. 

Again, no argument here.

->So
->tell us your answer? Was I wrong on what you would say, like you were wrong
->on my statement?

Guess we both struck out.  Oh well.  :)

->The US could easily
->sustain twice it's current population on existing farmland with current
->technology with little or no loss in the standard of living as far as food
->goes.

Look at how we pay farmers not to grow crops and this becomes obvious.

->Religion serves a purpose today, a spiritual one, as well as serving as a
->moral guide through life. You are free not to partake in it, but you enjoy
->the fruits of religion today.

I don't need religion to tell me that murder and theft are wrong.

->So what do you suggest as a means to brainwash or scare people into more
->sustainable behavior:P

The War on Drugs?  :)

->So what? People choose to educate themselves when given the chance, as the
->growing level of education in the US indicates. It is not a real option in the
->worst places to live, unless other conditions are treated first.

The drop out rates are very high recently...

->And none of this is the fault of the Catholic Church, any more than it is the
->fault of any other group with a long history.

I never said it was.

-DanD

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