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a_jabberwock@hotmail.com wrote:
> 
> In article <366228CA.5FBCB89B@earthlink.net>,
>   Chris <lightpony@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > a_jabberwock@hotmail.com wrote:
> 
> > > And let's see your statistics.
> >
> > The papal bulls against condoms...
> 
> That's what you consider a statistic?
> 
> > > And your proof that overpopulation is bad for the world?
> >
> > Er...our current environment?
> 
> My current enviroment seems great, so what is your proof?

You evidently live in some blessed enclave which is removed not only from the
rest of the world, but from even news of the rest of the world. 

Please don't presume to sit in Eden and taunt the rest of us who have to live
in the Real World.

The proof which you require from us, may be had should you deign to visit our
current environments, and a graet many others to which we can steer you.

In other words, "it's the world, the _whole world_, not your blessed little
half-acre of heaven or whatever.

If you live in a game-preserve or a national forest, sure things look great to
you. But if you walk out of that park and park yourself in, oh, Pocomoke
Virginia during _pfisteria_ season, you'll change your tune.

> 
> > > Thats why India has no overpopulation or misery, no Catholics?
> >
> > No common sense - cow worship is best left to cattlemen...
> 
> Yes, thats great. What about Africa and Asia?

Hmmm. Africa. Subsaharan Africa maybe, where one in ten have HIV, in a
slow-acting form that's expected to spread to three others before it's
discovered? Africa, where a population crash is practically assured even if
the entire world's medical resources were expended solely in Africa? Africa
where a high fecundity was mandatory to keep up population in an environment
with lots and lots of interesting diseases that are specialized to live in
primates? which interesting diseases were almost wiped out by meddling whites?
cultures that have always placed a high value on fertility will now find
themselves destroyed by their best ideals _which are no longer reflective of
the situation which created those ideals_ - the situation has changed.

dogmas must change with the times or they get run over by karmas.

> 
> > > Actually, it has been increasing at a rate that is lower than India, lower
> > > than Africa, lower than Asia, so it must be doing some good, right?
> >
> > Really - how so?
> 
> Because the poor overpopulated non-Catholic countries are worse off than the
> poor overpopulated Catholic countries, if you blame Catholics without any
> statistical proof I can certainly praise them with some statistical proof.

I think you are mixing attributions here?

> 
> > > Did it ever occur to you that you are acting as an knee-jerk reactionary for
> > > an anti-religious liberal agenda?
> >
> > Let me interject - NO. This from a slaverring capitalist Republidog!
> 
> Who, you? You are a hard core liberal, aren't you Chris?
> 
> > Actually what is up for grabs is the papal decrees against birth control
> > (how smart is that as we careen to 10 bil pop on the globe?)
> 
> Actually, the only 100% sure method of birth control is OK with the Pope, is
> it not?

Ah yes! And those who have the capability to remain chaste fail to breed to
pass on that trait! And in a few generations, the capability has utterly
vanished from the species! Just like the passenger pigeon, the chaste will
vanish and what will be left in their place will be stupid humans that can't
keep it in their pants, who will have been, while the chaste eliminated
themselves from the gene-pool, bred like freakin' rats.

Oh, and don't forget, since the intelligentsia are always steered into a
celibate priesthood, the fastbreeding chasteness-incapables will also be a
little bit short on inherent intelligence.

Is that what you _really_ want?

> 
> > and the
> > planetary history of religious oppression and justification for cultural
> > imperialism.
> 
> Ah, yes. You like to blame people for the sins of the past, tell me, Chris,
> what is your past?

what the hell does Chris' past have to do with the fact that religious
organizations (especially where linked to government) are essentially control
organizations, maintaining the place of the elite by keeping the poor
barefoot, pregnant, deluded and impoverished?


> 
> > I'm all for prayer in the home or church - just keep it
> > there.
> 
> So you are against free speech? You must be a liberal.
> 
> > You lot scare me when you organize for more than a picnic - even then
> > the potato salad may be toxic!
> 
> Me lot? What are you talking about? I'm not Catholic, Chris.

Obviously not, no Jesuit would have for a moment stood for any of your
argumentative ploys.

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