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Also spracht Melissa <Melissa9Z@Zmho.net>:

> In article <73oncv$cqn@enews3.newsguy.com>,
>    Roger Williams <rogerw@shell1.tiac.net> wrote:
> >Also spracht Melissa <Melissa9Z@Zmho.net>:
> >
> >> Look, questioning authoritarianism doesn't make anyone a bigot,
> >
> >   And yet, when people question you, they're "theocrats" or supportive of
> >"demagogues". That last one is interesting since a demagogue is someone
> >who makes use of popular prejudices and false claims in order to promote
> >an idea or to gain power. By making assertions that you so far have been
> >unable to back up with some raw data (what percentage of what countries
> >does the RCC own? Where?), 

> Look if all you can do is misquote me ( I didn't say they owned percentages of 
> countries, I said they were the largest real estate owner in the world.) I may 
> as well killfile you.

   If all you can do is avoid pointed questions to your canned rants, than
maybe you are better off killfiling anyone that doesn't agree with you.
The claim was that the RCC is "the biggest real estate owner in the
world". Ok, that's an assertion. Now back it up with fact. What countries
does the church own the most real estate in, and what percentage of those
countries does it's holdings account for? More than the governments (who
own things like military bases, nature preserves)? More than large
agricultural property owners? Are you claiming they own more square
yardage? More of a dollar value? And where are the numbers for these
claims coming from?

   And why did you snip questions about other major world religions that
encourage large families? Do they bear the same responsibility for
"perpetuating the cycle of human misery" that you attribute to the Roman
Catholic Church. Explain.

   And do keep in mind that simply sniffing "you're an apologist for a
theocratic regime!" is not an answer. If the almighty truth and facts are
on your side, then surely questions are nothing to fear, right? Keep in
mind that Jews and Catholics have had to put up with the "your religion is
an evil conspiratorial organization" crap for a long time (see "The Elders
Of The Protocols Of Zion", and "Christian Identity" nonsense). Without
supporting arguments, it's quite easy to be mistaken for a bigot.

> That's my opinion  - Melissa

   Excellent. Now back it up with some arguments.

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