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YOW - I'm Squabbling With Rich Braun - who _is_ he?

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From: Oded Feingold
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 22:17
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[My splenetic posting, regarding PC people who flame Ron  Newman, deleted.]

Rich Braun takes me to task:
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>Oded, chill out!  I enjoyed your posting, and your defense of Ron (whom
>I also know & for whom can vouch for the innocence of his original
>statement), but the above shows a real lack of comprehension of the gay
>experience.

>Like the stereotype of yahoos as rude, lazy, gun-toting people who
>vote pro-life or not at all, the above also marginalizes a group of people
>who for the most part don't fit the stereotype *at all*.
>	Look at your assumptions:
>		(a) all gay men are out to 'score';
>		(b) gay people are men;
>		(c) gay people have no life
>		(d) gay people are unattached and probably stay that
>			way for life.


Normally, I'd take it to e-mail and have done with it, but this
posting leaves the public impression that I'm a prejudiced yahoo(*).
I have enough flaws without being a bigot besides.

1.  I make (and made) NONE of those assumptions.

2.  I objected to snide aspersions about Ron Newman's failure to
    inform this newsgroup about attractive men at the Registry.
    The implication was that anyone who needed Ron to scout out the
    territory was missing a life, as well as initiative, judgment, and
    adequate satisfaction (of whatever variety) at home.  That claim
    was based on a hypothetical person's "need" for such services.

I don't want to defend my reputation (hah!) by proving the _negative_
of a charge that I'm a quasi-discreet(?) gay basher.  Mr. Braun has no
way of knowing my assumptions or feelings.  His statements are
uniformly incorrect.

Mr. Braun, if you stand by your claim that I carry such prejudices,
then I'm going to estimate that you're more in touch with your own
oppression than with reality.


	MEA ALTRA CULPA  (I am guilty of something different)
Of course, I deserve whatever I get, since I flamed Jon Kamens for his
posting.  What's sauce for the goose ...

I've set the followup field to /dev/null. I hope this discussion will
cease.  If you need to follow up, you must edit that line.
-- 
Oded Feingold  oaf@osf.org     Contractor at  Open Software Foundation
OSF:   11 Cambridge Center     Cambridge Ma. 02142      (617) 621-7265
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From: oaf@serverx.osf.org (Oded Feingold)
Subject: YOW - I'm Squabbling With Rich Braun - who _is_ he?
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Summary: who is prejudiced - hope it's not me
Keywords: attractive Braun Feingold gay Newman Registry Ron straight women
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Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 22:17:12 GMT
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