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In article <4o0gml$5cu@joni.loop.net> Geryon@yes.its.me.com (Geryon) writes:
>From: Geryon@yes.its.me.com (Geryon)
>Subject: Re: Men As "Success Objects" & Women As "Sex Objects"
>Date: 23 May 1996 01:57:41 GMT

>In article <4nviv4$ck5@transfer.stratus.com>, fereira@isis.com (John Fereira) says:
>>
>>In article <4nv4l6$b86@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> yng@firefly.prairienet.org (Y Ng) writes:
>>>
>>>Jennifer R Lind (betzl@ix.netcom.com) wrote:

>>>: As I just said above, owning a house doesn't mean someone is
>>>: responsible, so yes I am changing my view here.  There is more to
>>>: responsibilty than saving money though.  The proble with the men I went
>>>: out with is that since they never lived on there own they didn't know
>>>: how to take care of themselves.  Mother did laundry, bought food,
>>>: cooked, etc.  When I get married I'm not going to work full time and
>>>: take care of the house.  I already played that game with one guy I
>>>: lived with and I'm not doing it again.   
>>>: 
>I rent a small house from my betters, but it still somewhat comes to
>the same thing 'living at home'.  And much as I hate to admit it,
>I am afraid your right on this one.  Although I pretty much run my
>little place as an independent entity now, for a long time 'ol Ma
>and Pa wanted to keep taking care of me like I was a teenager.  [I'm
>the youngest in the family-*danger danger danger*]
>This made my own responsibility a bit slow in coming.

>Usually the old folks wanna keep there last lil' darling around for ever,
>even though the do it subconciously.  Always finding reasons why 'junior'
>should stick around.  And often these reasons are very *good* reasons,
>at least financially...except junior, already being the youngest and
>not having had to carry quite as responsibility as his/her senior
>siblings, is still kept from learning the full rigors of independent
>life...


..and i'll disagree with both of you.  yes, i'm still at home, but since my 
parents got divorced when i was 12, it was i that did all the cooking and 
cleaning (well, my younger sister helped until she moved out).  dad would cook 
on the weekends usually: a great cook, and i learned from him.  but all the 
cleaning, yardwork, pool maintainance, etc. were--and are my responsibility.  
hell, i've had all the responsibility of a homeowner from a young age!

even when i "moved in" with a college girlfriend  (in quotes because i never 
changed my address or even kept a closet full of clothes at her place), i made 
sure to go home and get the chores done.

yep, i guess i'm irresponsible because i'm comin' up on 35, got a masters 
degree, have been working for over 8 years, have a sizable savings, and 
will have my own place built next year.  all according to _my_ plan.

go figure.......there are no absolutes.  each situation is different.


regards,
greg
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