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In article <4nviv4$ck5@transfer.stratus.com>, fereira@isis.com (John Fereira) says:
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>In article <4nv4l6$b86@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> yng@firefly.prairienet.org (Y Ng) writes:
>>
>>Jennifer R Lind (betzl@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>>
>>
>>: I will admit however that the last guy I dated did own a home and he

>>: As I just said above, owning a house doesn't mean someone is
>>: responsible, so yes I am changing my view here.  There is more to
>>: responsibilty than saving money though.  The proble with the men I went
>>: out with is that since they never lived on there own they didn't know
>>: how to take care of themselves.  Mother did laundry, bought food,
>>: cooked, etc.  When I get married I'm not going to work full time and
>>: take care of the house.  I already played that game with one guy I
>>: lived with and I'm not doing it again.   
>>: 
I rent a small house from my betters, but it still somewhat comes to
the same thing 'living at home'.  And much as I hate to admit it,
I am afraid your right on this one.  Although I pretty much run my
little place as an independent entity now, for a long time 'ol Ma
and Pa wanted to keep taking care of me like I was a teenager.  [I'm
the youngest in the family-*danger danger danger*]
This made my own responsibility a bit slow in coming.

Usually the old folks wanna keep there last lil' darling around for ever,
even though the do it subconciously.  Always finding reasons why 'junior'
should stick around.  And often these reasons are very *good* reasons,
at least financially...except junior, already being the youngest and
not having had to carry quite as responsibility as his/her senior
siblings, is still kept from learning the full rigors of independent
life...
>>: >>Jen
>>
>>       could you list the things that a man suppose to do to be
>>       considered as a responsible man? or maybe list the things
>>       that a woman should do as a wife?
>>
>>       one question for your men out there, how many times that your
>>       partner initiate sex? and how many times you have to beg for 
>>       it? the successful rate, or the unsuccessful rate, please.
> 
>And while you're at it could you describe in detail the actual act
>so that we can make an informed determination as to whether it's better
>when the man initiates or the woman.  
>
>-- 
>John Fereira
>fereira@isis.com
>Isis Distributed Systems - Ithaca, NY

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and blessing:
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