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Re: Guys Who Describe Themselves As "Woman's Rights Champions"

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From: Tony Bruno
Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 00:00
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PangK wrote:
> 
>   Does the name BOBBY PACKWOOD mean anything to you?
> Working for THAT champion of women's rights meant he had to
> feel your tits daily! Or women's rights advocate Teddy Kennedy who
> rapes witresses in resturants under the table.... THAT is what I mean.
> I've seen LOTS of these men. ALL of them I have met want ONE THING
> PUSSY! Which is why they hang around women saying ANYTHING the girls want
> to hear! The saddest part is that IT WORKS!


To deny that men like this exist would be foolish.  Conversely, to 
declare that *no* man that believes in Women's Rights is expressing a 
genuine concern and is only after the proverbial "one thing" is both 
ignorant and dangerous.

Case in point:  My wife has most of the requirements called for by big 
business to make it in corporate America.  She's relatively young (29), 
attractive, has ten years work experience, including time as a 
supervisor in a goverment facility, has held a national security 
clearance (without being an armed services veteran, mind you), and has 
even been a partner in a desktop publishing firm.  She holds a BA in 
English, which she acknowledges is not as "sexy" as a BS in Computer 
Science, but she makes up for that fact by being extremely computer 
literate.  She currently holds the position as a Senior Computer 
Consultant at a corporate supplier in Grand Forks, ND.  This makes her 
succesful, right?

Hardly.

When my wife graduated from college in 1993, we decided to chance a move 
to the Denver Metro area in order to improve our long-term economic 
position.  It was a tough decision; I opted to hold off on my last year 
of college in order to make the move, as my wife was literally being 
offered only retail jobs in Grand Forks.  We did the headhunter thing, 
and -- unlike a surprising number of our peers -- hit the bricks to make 
opportunities for ourselves.  After three months of hard searching, the 
*only* offer she got (after the only interview she received, mind you) 
was that of a receptionist at an electronic components supply company.  
She was placed in charge of the computer equipment, handled phones, and 
made a whopping $8.50/hour to start.  Eventually, she made $9.60/hour, 
but was passed over for promotions twice in favor of people with half 
the experience and education and, apparently, half the material to make 
their skirts.  She looked for other positions, but they never panned 
out.  She was either overqualified, underqualified, or simply "not what 
we're looking for."

What does this have to do with Women's Rights?  Well, while my wife was 
slogging away, I was looking for a job to "help pay the bills" before I 
went back to school.  I figured that, without a college degree, I would 
be offered garbage, so I was prepared for the worst.  Instead, I 
interviewed to the final level for two jobs making in excess of 
$35,000.00/year, turned down two $10.00/hour positions, and finally 
chose a position with a firm several blocks away from my wife, simply 
because I only intended to stay there for a year before college.  While 
I was at this firm, it was made clear to me by my co-workers that, if I 
did not have a wife and family, I would likely go quite far.  Disgusted 
by the whole experience, my wife and I decided to move back to North 
Dakota so I could finish my degree.  She found her current position 
immediately, rose quickly to Senior Consultant, but that is where she 
will stay, as there is no more room for advancement, and there is no 
economic opportunity in this part of the country.

I tell this story because we were both stunned by the entire experience. 
 I was raised by three older sisters, so the concept of treating women 
as anything other than competent human beings was (and is) beyond me.  
While I was in the military, my wife was treated with nothing short of 
the respect that should be expected by anyone.  Instead, we found the 
Denver Metro area to be, by and large, a "Penis-Only" club, with the 
women that were making it catering to the market by dressing 
ridiculously. (Thigh-high slit skirts in a business meeting?  Please.)  
Sexism, we discovered, does exist, and does not appear to be going away. 
 It horrifies me, it disgusts me, and it makes me shudder at the state 
of humanity.  I am not after the "one thing" that the previous poster 
implied, and do not tolerate any such treatment in my presence.  In the 
year we have to seek out better economic opportunities I can only hope 
that we will find a location that offers interviews based on 
skills and not bust-size.  We're both tired of a business environment 
where the chances of my wife being hired are directly proportionaly to 
how high her skirt is.

Tony Bruno
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From: Tony Bruno <tbruno@blizzard.gaffaneys.com>
Subject: Re: Guys Who Describe Themselves As "Woman's Rights Champions"
Date: 1996/05/20
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