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In article <4mavg5$rl0@news.ccit.arizona.edu> ruskinr@aruba.ccit.arizona.edu (Robert H Ruskin) writes:

   From: ruskinr@aruba.ccit.arizona.edu (Robert H Ruskin)
   Newsgroups: ne.singles,soc.women,soc.men,ba.singles,soc.couples
   Date: 2 May 1996 18:39:01 GMT

   L:

   I would almost be curious to know your age. I am a 44 y.o. male, average 
   looks, a champion of women's causes (!), and a decent all round nice 
   fellow, in the next few months I will have earned my Ph.D. in Science. I 
   have been curious about what WOMEN THINK, what WOMEN WANT, what WOMEN 
   EXPECT from a man so have been conducting the longest lasting un-formal 
   survey I have ever heard of, here is what I have found:

   #1 Women want Sex. It has been said (correctly) that all men do is talk 
   about sex, that women NEVER do -- WRONG!! Women do nothing BUT TALK about 
   sex among themselves. The difference is that they have different and deeper 
   fantasies about men, then men do about women. THEY DREAM OF HAVING A 
   VERY GOOD LOOKING MAN TO HAVE SEX WITH.

muscle groupies.

   #2 Women want Money. Frequently a woman who thinks she is good looking 
   will never, ever consider going out with a poor man. Frequently they have 
   a "income level" they want their man to have. They will go out with 
   someone who has money that can be spent on them for dinners, gifts, etc.

money groupies.

   #3 Women want to be associated with Power. Either they want to dominate a 
   relationship, or they want a tycoon type person that will bring them into 
   "important social circles".

power groupies.

I live ouside Wash DC. there are lots of power groupies here. in
recent years, there have been a lot of corporate HQs move into this
area, so now there are more money groupies. I don't know about the
muscle groupies, but DC is not particularly known for this as far as I
am aware...

having neither muscles, money or power, I don't generally meet these
folks, but I have, on a few occasions about 10 years ago, been to
parties of the rich and obscurely famous (courtesy of my parents), and
sure enough, there they are.


there are other things women want:

1) you gotta be "nice", but don't assume this means that's all you
are. this means you won't physically abuse them. occasionally they
like someone who's dangerous, but they still don't want to get abused.

2) you gotta be interesting. can't spend all your time in front of the
computer, or the tv, or lifting weights. what constitutes interesting
varies an awful lot--each one has a different definition. basically
you have to have a lot of interests, and they probably should NOT
include too much sports. and NOT one interest to the exclusion of all others.

3) you gotta be motivated. this doesn't mean insanely ambitious,
because that means you'll ignore her, but you can't be just a bump on
a log (altho a lot of folks settle for that).

4) you have to pay attention to her. you can't forget her birthday,
etc., but you don't have to be financially stupid about it either. you
have to be interested in her, what she thinks, what she does, what she
wants to do. 

   I was curious about love and sex in a woman's mind -- so I asked!! Why 
   does a women go to bed with a man? Here is what I was told: A man goes to 
   bed with a woman to have sex; in order to get it, he will tell her how 
   much he loves her (when in fact all he wants is sex). Women want LOVE, 
   and if she feels that the man loves her she will have sex with him, 
   otherwise, if she does not feel he loves her, and/or she does not love 
   him, he is pushed off to the side.

"men give love for sex, women give sex for love."   an old saying.

   I have taken some very classy ladies (late 30's up) out on "dates". For 
   many women less than 30 (and for many who are over 40 but never grew up) 
   it now seems that a "date" is some type of romantic adventure. 

[snip]

   The expectation now a days is that if you go out on a "date" with a woman, 
   it MUST have romantic intentions behind it leading to sex and marriage. 

date=sex=marriage. you have to pre-qualify for all three before you
get any of them. I've said this before. been the victim of it more
than once. no longer, tho (whew!).

 -- clint
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