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Re: Guys Who Describe Themselves As "Woman's Rights Champions"

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From: Robert H Ruskin
Date: Wed, 08 May 1996 00:00
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John:

Why NOT do this??? Especially if it is true!!! No I'm no big time 
crusader out in the public lime-light type of women's right's champion; 
no most of my acts are quiet. But far to many men are NOT women's right's 
champions who prefer to keep a woman "barefoot and pregnant". I love 
women for the people they are, and their contributions to the world. I 
have no problem with dealing with women as equals [but then again I have 
worked in a field for the past 22 years where there are many, many bright 
and talented women. And would you believe me if I told you I am a former 
member of the League of *Women* Voters?!?!? 

Why do this?? Chalk it up to having a HORRIBLE STREAK of the Don Quixote in 
me who firmly believes with all his heart in a woman's potential, and who 
hates seeing them thought as as some man's toy, who have no brains in 
their heads. The women I run with will slice a man's intellect in half 
with little effort -- and we are talking about men with a professional 
background, not truck drivers. Why do this? Because this is a 
qualification -- just as age, occupation, height -- that I am proud of, 
that's why.

While I may not be found to be some woman's type of man, that does not 
prevent me from having several deep and close relationships with some 
very bright and talented women (many recognized as among the top in 
their field). It is because I can form such relationships that I can 
find out what a woman want's, what a woman expects, what a woman feels.
Who knows, maybe I'll someday meet THE woman who can truly appreciate 
me for the many, many parts of me; a woman who places SUBSTANCE before 
IMAGE. I may not be the best, the brightest, the richest, the.... but I 
am more than a catch for any woman who wants a good husband. In the 
meantime I intend to explore relationships regardless of form and 
appreciate each as a unique gift crafted between two people.

Least you think I am in the "enemy's camp", I also hate seeing women 
taking men for a ride, and there are far, far too many who do. That too 
is not right. Women should not just automatically be given rights simply 
because they are women -- that is wrong. And there are many women who are 
men's rights advocates.

The biggest crime about the "Third Date Rule" is that it boils everything 
down to sex. If sex is not in the works, then then relationship should be 
abandoned. Somehow if you go out on a "date" [I no longer know what that 
is] three times, you should know whether you want to go to bed with 
him/her. How stupid can you get!!!! Ah, but if you are a "friend" somehow 
you don't count as a possible romantic interest, you NEVER go out on a 
"date" with a friend. If there is one thing that angers me about today's 
generation, it is this application of the "Third Date Rule" because it is 
so dehumanizing. [It is interesting to note that women in their 20's who 
consider themselves pretty, and who based upon their self evaluation 
of their looks discard men because they are not "My type", tend to beg 
for men when they hit 40-50 when their beauty is fading]. 

We need to see each other less as sexual objects to be sought and 
possessed, and more as people with a sexual identity who we wish to 
understand and share ourselves with. Love is an unfolding of a flower 
that has no set schedule, and comes in many forms each needing 
exploration. Because you can jump into bed with a person does not by 
itself signify that a "relationship" has been born; nor does lack of sex 
in a relationship signify that a loving relationship does not exist.  

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From: ruskinr@aruba.ccit.arizona.edu (Robert H Ruskin)
Subject: Re: Guys Who Describe Themselves As "Woman's Rights Champions"
Date: 1996/05/08
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