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jcooley@world.std.com (John Cooley) wrote:
>> Gail this is just the way the world is (you know this -- that's why you
>> lost the weight in the first place!)

walker_g@eisner.decus.org replied:
> NO that isn't it - I don't lose weight to attract more men. Attracting
> men is not my reason for living. I have lost
> weight at times because I wanted to FOR ME.

jcooley@world.std.com (John Cooley) replied:
: Yea, right, Gail, you lost weight because it was fun and didn't give one
: iota that men, women and all those around you would treat you with more
: respect if you were thinner.  Nope.  This social effect of being slim
: had *no* bearing on why Gail lost her weight!   < NOT!>

   I guess I'll add my 2� to this thread...

   John, why are you taking the position that the only possible reason one
would lose weight is to gain approval from others?  There are people who lose
weight for health reasons, or on a doctor's orders, or as a side effect of
taking up exercising, or from consuming less sugar and Aspartame so one isn't
hungry all the time, etc., none of which qualifies as doing it for the social
effect that may or may not ensue.

   I won't speak for Gail, but in my case, I can say that there've been many
times when I've lost some weight and none of them were specifically in order
to please others.  I have no trouble at all imagining Gail acting for some
similar reason(s).

   If the end result happens to have beneficial social consequences, too,
that's great, but that doesn't make it the cause for action.  I'm puzzled by
your post hoc ergo propter hoc logic.
 -WBE