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Re: The Dreaded Third Date Rule

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From: Alex Osinski
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:00
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Pach <int0008@CollegeSherbrooke.qc.ca> wrote:
>Bogbody wrote:
>> 
>> :I'm waiting for the woman who will admit that she does like being
>> :submissive, or that she has problems approaching men in real life >>(like :we don't know any women who've said that).
>> 
>> OK, I admit it, sometimes both of the above are true for me.
>
>same here!
>
>
>> 
>> :Or a man who writes that he enjoys paying for dates since it lessens his
>> :obigations later, since basically he's only after one thing.
>> 
>> I have heard this from men - particularly as a reason why men pay for
>> prostitutes. It's easier and they feel no guilt.
>
>Totally true..
>
>> 
>> Now, go check under your pillow...
>> -katy
>
>
>why should he chek under his pillow???
>
>well anyways.. if you get to third date.. you'll get farther...

I have been doing some research on this and run into some statistics that 
show a serious difference in views of casual sex among men and women. 

One study cited by Playboy magazine showed an average of 60% of men are 
generally open to casual sex while only 3-5% of women are.  Seymore 
Fisher's extencive text entitled _The female Orgasm_, yes orgasm, not 
organism (1973 edition) shows women were not nearly as sexually 
responsive as men in almost every experiment where men represented a 
control variable.  Frequency of masturbation was considerably lower for 
women than men.  Women also experienced lower levels of arousal to 
almost every type of stimulous. On the other hand, those few women who 
did experience high levels of arousal exerienced it more intensely than 
men.  Women who did appear sexually responsive had significantly higher 
intercourse rates. 

High intercourse rates were more consistent for women with observable 
movement and expressive behavior indicative of arousal than appearance or 
clothing.  So girls, you have to let us know if you want it.  The "third 
date rule" is just a coping mechanism for a lack of other communicative 
behavior.  I have had girlfriends who would not do it until well after 
the tenth date (if at all) while my fondest memories are of girls who did 
it the same day (or night) that I met them. Take a wild guess which ones 
got the flowers. In the long run, it is the girls who communicate their 
sexual needs to men who are more likely to have them satisfied.

So what is the conclusion? Most women are uptight, don't particularly 
want sex, and are under-sexed because they are unresponsive to men.  The 
presence or absence of commitment has little to do with sexuality.  You 
can even play submissive if you want, but you will still have to 
communicate that you are ready for, or want sex. 

Men who "enjoy" paying for sex most likely are not satisfied by the lack 
of commitment as much as the very clear line of communication between 
them and the prostitute.  The symbolic interaction of a business 
transaction and clear communication that "satisfies" men who employ 
prostitutes is more of an issue than "lack of commitment".  After all, 
the man who employs a prostitute "commits" part of his income for a 
temporary pleasure which in nearly all cases will require several hours 
of work to pay for. 
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From: Alex Osinski <osinski4@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: The Dreaded Third Date Rule
Date: 1996/04/29
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