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Article #69Re: City Cracks Down on Bike Couriers--pedestrian killed in Manhattan
From: Steve Manes
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 00:00
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 00:00
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In nyc.transit Vasos Panagiotopoulos +1-917-287-8087 Bioengineer-Financier <vjp2@dorsai.org @smtp.dorsai.org> wrote: : I just thought of something - in Manhattan, why not take a : page from the street vendor rules and only allow cycling on side : (east-west) streets and just plainly require EVERYBODY to dismount on : the Avenues except for the really wide avenues. What page is that?? There are hundreds of licensed vendors along Broadway south of 8th Street and along 6th Avenue. I think the point is being missed here: the vast majority of bicyclists don't threaten pedestrians. Sure, many run red lights but this doesn't necessarily mean that a pedestrian will be frightened or inconvenienced in the process. I run red lights all the time and have never cut off a pedestrian with the legal right of way. As long as we're talking about bicyclists obeying the lights, show me even _one_ non-tourist pedestrian in NYC who doesn't routinely cross against the walk light or between crosswalks if they believe they can do so safely. Likewise all the joggers (pedestrians) who run in reserved bicycle lanes and, yes, even on crowded sidewalks. This is NYC, for crying out loud. Pedestrians are going to jaywalk, cars are going to honk their infernal horns and cabs are going to drive like idiots. We _should_ prosecute the extreme cases but it's folly to assume that tougher laws will be enforced against the true offenders with any more aggressiveness than the existing ones.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 112ce4,e25c541ab8c60ca7 X-Google-Attributes: gid112ce4,public X-Google-Thread: fd3ff,e25c541ab8c60ca7 X-Google-Attributes: gidfd3ff,public X-Google-Thread: 108dbe,e25c541ab8c60ca7 X-Google-Attributes: gid108dbe,public X-Google-Thread: 10e08b,e25c541ab8c60ca7 X-Google-Attributes: gid10e08b,public X-Google-Thread: 100284,e25c541ab8c60ca7 X-Google-Attributes: gid100284,public From: Steve Manes <smanes@NOSPAM.EVERmagpie.com> Subject: Re: City Cracks Down on Bike Couriers--pedestrian killed in Manhattan Date: 1997/12/02 Message-ID: <EKL38r.JBC@magpie.com> X-Deja-AN: 294660706 Sender: smanes@NOSPAM.EVERmagpie.com References: <971116075308_1482191885@mrin86.mail.aol.com> <3474661d.1097239@nntp.best.ix.netcom.com> <6523fd$8kl$1@news2.alpha.net> <653b6u$4li$1@news.ncal.verio.com> <petrichEK6vnq.9tu@netcom.com> <65h0pu$9uk@snews2.zippo.com> Organization: Disorganized, Inc. Newsgroups: ne.transportation,misc.transport.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,ba.transportation,nyc.transit