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Re: AT&T MIPS claim

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From: Daniel R. Levy
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 1986 16:41
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In article <266@comm.UUCP>, dave@comm.UUCP (Dave Brownell) writes:
>In article <577@scirtp.UUCP> dfh@scirtp.UUCP (David F. Hinnant) writes:
>> ...  They made this interesting claim that the UNIX PC gives
>> you "75% of the power of a VAX 11/780" for "only 7% of the cost".
>> Arrgh.  ...  Is this the MIP rating for the
>> 68010 as compared to the VAX?  Looks like it.  One really couldn't ask
>> for a better example of the Meaningless Index of Performance.  I've seen
>> many a 780 run with more than 20 users.  I'd like to see you put that
>> many on a UNIX PC that I found can barely support one.
>This is Apples and Oranges ... a MIP, however meaningless, is a CPU benchmark,
>and a "user" is a rather ill-defined I/O benchmark ... and I do believe
>the I/O on the 7300 is not up to the CPU.  Maybe when someone comes up
>with a realistic I/O benchmark we can really start comparing UNIX hardware.
>(Yes, that marketing claim is absurd.)
>    Dave Brownell
>    EnMasse Computer Corporation
>    {genrad,harvard}!enmasse!comm!dave

It only appears absurd to those who take it to mean what it doesn't mean.
The CPU does have that much 'crunch power'.  I/O is a separate animal.
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From: levy@ttrdc.UUCP (Daniel R. Levy)
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Subject: Re: AT&T MIPS claim
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Date: Sat, 7-Jun-86 12:41:23 EDT
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Posted: Sat Jun  7 12:41:23 1986
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