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Article #2716Re: Re: VERY LARGE main memories
From: James A. Woods
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1986 22:50
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1986 22:50
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# "what comes after silicon? oh, gallium arsenide, i'd guess.
and after that, there's a thing called indium phosphide." -- seymour cray
circa 1980
tom keller wonders about the speed of gigabyte memories.
the cray 2 here has 1/2 gigabyte, with a worst-case cycle time of 57 clock
pulses (~234 nsec). i doubt chip decoding delays take the bulk of this
time (logarithms don't grow fast); the sluggishness is more likely due to
the 2 using conservative (i.e. cheap) 256K dynamic mos technology.
things are a bit better with pseudo-banks (33 clocks/eight-byte word),
and strictly sequential access for vectors is designed to be fast
(1.1 clocks/word).
but the memory speed for non-vectorized C code (e.g. any unix utility except
for 'cmp'), leaves a lot to be desired -- even with local variables in
fast registers ("local memory") [it would be nice to allow arrays here].
for "random stride" computation (unix kernel, compilers, utilities),
the cray 2 is about the speed of a MIPS board. indeed, d. ritchie
noted at the recent supercomputer conference held at nasa ames
that because of assembler code expansion risc-style (to ascii, yet),
the compile pipeline makes at&t's faster (scalar-wise) cray x-mp about the
speed of a high-end vax for such application.
if seymour ever hopes to regain the 'scalar' computing championship title,
he'd better get hip to a transparent data cache.
-- ames!aurora!jaw
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