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Article #2858Re: VERY LARGE main memories
From: Steven E. Rice
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1986 17:41
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1986 17:41
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In article <8546@duke.duke.UUCP>, Stephen R. Tate (srt@duke.UUCP) writes:
>> [ comments by Philip Freidin on decoder tree structure deleted -- S. Rice]
>
> First off, I was talking about decoding *bank* addresses, not individual
> word addresses. . . . Now that's only 8 bits for a bank address, and I
> have seen 8 input NAND gates. (7430 or something like that....) . . .
If you're going to design large memories, decode them *fast*. Delays for
a 74AS30 are 5 ns max over temperature and +/- 10% Vcc (but 50 pf/500 Ohm
load). Fanning out to 16 gates will push this out a bit (but not much).
> . . . Each of these bank
> address lines need only drive one input per bank (32 chips), which means
> that they only have to drive 256 inputs. Much less than your 32k figure,
> but still unreasonable. Obviously, the address lines need to be buffered.
> Using TTL with a fanout of, say, 16, you only need one level of buffering
> (since 16*16 = 256). Now you're three levels deep for a propogation delay
> of about 40-50ns. Still not a terribly unreasonable time.
With currently-available logic, you should be able to go 3 levels in not much
more than 15 ns (oh, Lattice, where are those 10 ns GALs??).
> . . .
> Incidentally, CMOS has a *huge* fanout. That is, CMOS outputs to CMOS
> inputs (no mixing).
CMOS has a huge fanout at DC. . . As you try to do things fast, the
capacitive loading of the inputs becomes the dominant factor. If you hang
a whole bunch of inputs on one CMOS output, the rise and fall times
become seriously degraded. Some of the newer CMOS is quite capable,
though -- output drive capabilities that equal or exceed those of most
bipolar circuits.
Steve Rice
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Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!mnetor!seismo!ut-sally!husc6!panda!genrad!decvax!tektronix!tekcrl!vice!tekfdi!videovax!stever From: stever@videovax.UUCP (Steven E. Rice) Newsgroups: net.arch Subject: Re: VERY LARGE main memories Message-ID: <1934@videovax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 12-Sep-86 13:41:39 EDT Article-I.D.: videovax.1934 Posted: Fri Sep 12 13:41:39 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 16-Sep-86 22:43:00 EDT References: <2017@sdcsvax.UUCP> <884@gilbbs.UUCP> <289@petrus.UUCP> <12930@amdcad.UUCP> <8546@duke.duke.UUCP> Reply-To: stever@videovax.UUCP (Steven E. Rice) Organization: Tektronix, Comm Group, TV R&D Lines: 38 Summary: Technology marches along -- sub-5 nanosecond gate delays!