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Re: Yet ANOTHER null pointer dereference problem (in "cat")

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From: Erik E. Fair
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1985 08:23
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In article <2859@sun.uucp> shannon@sun.uucp (Bill Shannon) writes:
>
>Actually, Sun made the fixes and gave them back to Berkeley, to help
>all the other poor slobs who started with 4.xBSD as a porting base.
>Berkeley was very good about taking these fixes back.  If/when we get
>a line into AT&T, we will give them the fixes too.  I hope they will
>also be willing to take back such fixes.  I strongly urge both Berkeley
>and AT&T to build their systems such that access to location zero causes
>a fault, and then fix all the bugs that turn up.

Due to various historical (hysterical?) reasons, the Dual Systems 68000
Version 7 UNIX port had an offset of 0x800000, so that doing *(0)
resulted in a quick death by SIGSEGV.

Aside from the programs which we ported that were tripped up by this,
I remember patiently trying to explain to various customers who were
porting other programs from the VAX and PDP-11 that this was not a bug
in our hardware, but actually the sins of the programmer who wrote the
program in the first place, coming home to roost. I don't think that I
managed to convince all of them...

There were two papers given at the Dallas USENIX Conference (Jan 1985)
on this general topic:

	Latent Source Bugs and UNIX System Portability
		Alan Filipski, Motorola Microsystems

	Can't Happen or /* NOTREACHED */ or Real Programs Dump Core
		Ian Darwin & Geoff Collyer, University of Toronto

Both papers are replete with examples of How Not To Do Things, cogent
observations about portability, and guidelines for good coding
practices. I recommend them highly to anyone who programs in C at any
time, regardless of whether they intend to make their programs portable
or not.

	Erik E. Fair	ucbvax!fair	fair@ucbarpa.BERKELEY.EDU
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